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lucas's avatar
16 years ago
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it's between:

Motorola W385 -- Free
LG enV -- $99.99
Motorola MOTO Z6c World Edition -- $179.99

i'd still kinda undecided.
lucas's avatar
16 years ago
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lucas
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i wanted the motorola f3c, but this dude in ghana would never answer his phone:
http://www.businessghana.com/portal/classifie … mp;id=5531
lucas's avatar
16 years ago
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oh, and anyone have any bluetooth headset recommendations?

this looks cheap and decent:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?It … 6875978054
phi_'s avatar
16 years ago
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phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
I'm going to hijack this thread: anyone have any old SIM card based phones they don't want? I've grown tired of all the phone bs and wanting back my old bar Nokia with the green/black display.
lucas's avatar
16 years ago
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yeah, i'm sick of the shit as well. i wouldn't mind an old phone, but i do really like being able to backup my sms messages using bitpim and a data cable (my criterion for a cell phone).
phi_'s avatar
16 years ago
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phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
Bizarre. Why would you need to back up some messages? If it's necessary I write it down...
lucas's avatar
16 years ago
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lucas
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i'm ocd.
lucas's avatar
16 years ago
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lucas
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sriehl: do you do the free wap thing?
sriehl's avatar
16 years ago
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sriehl
surreal
I used to, and I believe you still can fairly easily. I just need to figure out how to set it up on a *nix box. I had hottproxy set up on windows, but its windows only.
lucas's avatar
16 years ago
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lucas
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i can run a wap proxy on my server.

i'm not going to get the moto z6c. so should i get the moto w385 for free, or should i get the lg env for $100 so i can bust qwerty and a nice wap browser?

hm...
sriehl's avatar
16 years ago
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sriehl
surreal
I dig the qwerty. I've been spoiled and hate trying to type on the 9-keypad
lucas's avatar
16 years ago
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lucas
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yeah, me too.
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16 years ago
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DaGr8Gatzby
Drunk by Myself
.... Nokia E61
lucas's avatar
16 years ago
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lucas
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just ordered the w385.
lucas's avatar
16 years ago
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lucas
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sadly, one of the biggest selling points for me was that it has a mini-usb port. i already use a usb-to-mini-usb cable for many devices, so this is another one.

a huge part of the reason that i bought the canon sd750 was because it uses sd and my laptop has an sd slot. my previous camera was cf so i had to pack a card reader. :(

granted, the env uses microsd, but i only have sd cards, and lg uses all of those terrible proprietary connectors. no thanks. :(
lucas's avatar
16 years ago
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lucas
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p.s. http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1302759
lucas's avatar
16 years ago
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lucas
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lucas's avatar
16 years ago
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lucas
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dp, this would have been some good tech for you: http://www.howardchui.com/2007/12/17/maximum-signal/
dannyp's avatar
16 years ago
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dannyp
dʎuuɐp
haha sweet
lucas's avatar
16 years ago
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lucas
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phi> Bizarre. Why would you need to back up some messages? If it's necessary I write it down...

http://www.clanbbw.com/publicimg/data/images/ocd_legacy.png
lucas's avatar
16 years ago
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lucas
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the w385 was a big mistake. i now have 123 test messages sitting on it that i need to backup. and bitpim doesn't support reading them. :(
nestor's avatar
16 years ago
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nestor
nestor
i want a blackberry 8800!
asemisldkfj's avatar
16 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
the screen on my phone is being funky lately. the backlight will flicker from being on to being really really bright sometimes. I hope it doesn't die! I still have something like nine months before I can get a new phone with a discount. and I'm not even sure I want to renew my contract.
lucas's avatar
16 years ago
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so i got the w385 in january. by february, the battery was not lasting long at all, anymore. so i took it in, and i was given a new battery. within another six weeks, that battery wasn't lasting long at all, too. so i took it in on monday and got a new phone replacement ordered.

it came yesterday, so i took it in today so they could activate it, transfer my things over, and give me a new battery.

i got this pretty cute girl who wouldn't shut the fuck up and just do her job.

she wouldn't give me a new battery--she tested it and it wasn't bad enough.

she peeled the protective plastic off the screens--i wanted the plastic on there until i figure out a way to protect the screens!

she agreed to transfer my data over, but she missed one picture--a picture of pink argyle that i used as my wallpaper. luckily i had transcribed my text messages already.

my new phone was stuck on roaming, too! so i had to reprogram it just to get it off roaming.

what a joke. (angry? yeah. and sorry about the rant, but damn.)
lucas's avatar
16 years ago
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> I hope it doesn't die!

is it still under warranty? which carrier do you have?
 
16 years ago
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dbrown
> so i had to reprogram it
how so?
lucas's avatar
16 years ago
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lucas
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dialing *228 then SEND will let your reprogram on verizon's network and software.
DaGr8Gatzby's avatar
16 years ago
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DaGr8Gatzby
Drunk by Myself
All motos suck :(
phi_'s avatar
16 years ago
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phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
I agree with that, Gatz.
asemisldkfj's avatar
16 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
I just won two Nokia E61s on eBay! I was bidding on a used one, won it for ~190 USD, and had also made a "best offer" on a brand new one for 200 USD. both are unlocked.

the new one is branded with the UK wireless provider "3". kind of an annoying name since it's difficult to find anything about them via a search engine.

I'm gonna check both of them out when they arrive and re-sell the one I don't want to keep. they're both on my credit card now so it's cool :).

Gatzby has one too. I can't wait for them to arrive!
nestor's avatar
16 years ago
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nestor
nestor
nice. sand off the 3.
asemisldkfj's avatar
16 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
yeah, I'm gonna see how easy it is to get rid of.
Chiken's avatar
16 years ago
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Chiken
Don't Let Your Walls Down
quick cellphone question. would a unlocked cellphone on the Rogers network in cananda work on the verison network in the US?
asemisldkfj's avatar
16 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
Verizon is weird, so I'm gonna assume no. I'm not sure though. Verizon doesn't have SIM cards or anything. you might be able to talk to Verizon and have them set up the phone though. I'm honestly not sure, I just know Verizon is kind of a pain.
lucas's avatar
16 years ago
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lucas
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no, because verizon only uses cdma, and as asemi said, canada is all gsm.
asemisldkfj's avatar
16 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
yeah, that.

:)
nestor's avatar
16 years ago
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nestor
nestor
nay! only rogers is gsm. telus & bell are both cdma.
lucas's avatar
16 years ago
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lucas
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oops... so i put words in asemi's mouth, and they were wrong!
asemisldkfj's avatar
16 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
I am furious.
Chiken's avatar
16 years ago
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Chiken
Don't Let Your Walls Down
well that sucks, i was gonna get a slvr for a killer deal
asemisldkfj's avatar
16 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
First time on ttf from the new phone!

boo to horizontal scrolling.

and there are pics on my flickr: flickr.com/photos/asemisldkfj2
phi_'s avatar
16 years ago
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phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
Doesn't gatz have that same phone?
nestor's avatar
16 years ago
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nestor
nestor
yum, umlauts
asemisldkfj's avatar
16 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
He sure does. He's the reason I know about it!

I'm using it in my school library right now. Pretty neat.
nestor's avatar
16 years ago
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nestor
nestor
jesus, unlocking phones is hell. for some reason cell phone communities on the internet are incapable of communicating in decent english.
asemisldkfj's avatar
16 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
unlocking my E61 was actually surprisingly easy. I changed one thing with this weird hackish program, ran Nokia's software update program, and it was unlocked!
asemisldkfj's avatar
16 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
or maybe that was just unbranding it. I think unlocking is a little more intense.
nestor's avatar
16 years ago
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nestor
nestor
yeah. i want to use a sim card from the uk.
asemisldkfj's avatar
16 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
some cell phone providers will do it for you, won't they?

how long until you leave?
bluet's avatar
16 years ago
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bluet
8 hours :o
nestor's avatar
16 years ago
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nestor
nestor
actually i get on a regional jet at 5pm EDT - 4 hours !
asemisldkfj's avatar
16 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
I'm thinking about downgrading my phone. wifi+email+web+IM+ssh+whatever is a little overkill for me. anywhere that has wifi usually has public computers if I really need to get online. most of the time I use the wifi I'd probably just be better of doing something else with my time.

I want to get something small and cheap, preferably with a camera. I think I get an upgrade from T-Mobile pretty soon.
asemisldkfj's avatar
16 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
plus I can get like 150-200 selling my E61 on eBay.
lucas's avatar
16 years ago
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lucas
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i'll sell you my shitty motorola w385 for free.
asemisldkfj's avatar
16 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
why's it shitty?
asemisldkfj's avatar
16 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
but yeah, I'll probably take it as long as it's not like broken.
lucas's avatar
16 years ago
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lucas
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because i need to be able to transfer sms messages off of it digitally. i can't take typing them in my hand anymore.
asemisldkfj's avatar
16 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
I emailed you. gmail autocompleted your wingedleopard.net address so hopefully that's cool.
asemisldkfj's avatar
16 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
crap it's a Verizon phone :(.
asemisldkfj's avatar
16 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
I bought the Motofone F3 from Amazon last night. should be here Wednesday. I am in a technology downgrading phase right now.
dannyp's avatar
16 years ago
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dannyp
dʎuuɐp
I hope you read my post :p
DaGr8Gatzby's avatar
16 years ago
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DaGr8Gatzby
Drunk by Myself
Nokia N81 man ... just wait.
andyp's avatar
16 years ago
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andyp
nothing is wrong - what are you scared of?
i got the nv2. its very nice.. everything i need in a phone i guess. i like the shape of it and it is super solid.
asemisldkfj's avatar
16 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
which post, dp? the one about the SIM card not working? I'm pretty sure my T-Mobile one will work in it… I did buy it from Amazon so if it's not actually unlocked like it's advertised then I'll probably be able to return it.
lucas's avatar
16 years ago
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lucas
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for sure.. amazon has an amazing electronics return policy.
asemisldkfj's avatar
16 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
really? I remember looking a while ago because I wanted to return a PCI wifi card I bought and it seemed like the return policy for goods you just didn't want anymore was nonexistant.
lucas's avatar
16 years ago
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lucas
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from what i've read, yeah.
asemisldkfj's avatar
15 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
I was just looking around to see if I could find any of the non-black (they have blue, red, and apparently some silvery gray one that I haven't been able to find) versions of my motofone, and I noticed that they are only 25 bucks (unlocked!) from J&R: http://www.jr.com/motorola/pe/MOT_F3/
asemisldkfj's avatar
15 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
should I spend 90-100 USD for a blue Motofone from Germany? I am seriously tempted. I emailed the seller and they quoted me 35 Euros for shipping. it seems kind of steep, but I'm not sure what other option I have. I kind of really want one.
phi_'s avatar
15 years ago
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phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
Euro phones have some weird settings for MMS/WAP/etc so set aside some time for getting everything set up manually. (speaking from experience, I JUST got my Russian phone's MMS settings "correct", but I can't receive any MMS messages larger than 100k because Europe has a cap, IIRC)

I just got hold of a Sony Ericsson w580i that I found in a backpack in lost and found at work. It's been sitting there for months, so I figure it's fair game. Branded AT&T and still locked, so I'm currently trying to unbrand and unlock the damn thing, but Sony makes this retardedly hard.
asemisldkfj's avatar
15 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
the Motofone I am looking at is unlocked and unbranded, thankfully. there aren't very many settings on it to be messed up, so I would hope that SMS and stuff would work out of the box (with my SIM card of course).
phi_'s avatar
15 years ago
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phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
SMS will, but MMS will (most likely) be an issue because it's from Europe. It won't be a big issue, though. Your provider will be able to walk you through (or have an automated page like T-Mobile) getting everything working properly.
bluet's avatar
15 years ago
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bluet
the phone doesn't do mms at all
asemisldkfj's avatar
15 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
yeah, bluet is right :).
phi_'s avatar
15 years ago
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phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
oh ... then no problem at all. haha.

I took my w580i to a shady cell phone shop near my work, they're going to unlock and unbrand it for me for $40. Was gonna cost me $20-$30 for the USB cable and a lot of time to DIY the thing, so I took the hit and had their "tech" do it.
DaGr8Gatzby's avatar
15 years ago
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DaGr8Gatzby
Drunk by Myself
Just found a phone I'm interested in.

Nokia N97
asemisldkfj's avatar
15 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
just got a g1. could not resist.
nestor's avatar
15 years ago
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nestor
nestor
hahaha nice
DaGr8Gatzby's avatar
15 years ago
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DaGr8Gatzby
Drunk by Myself
Still loving my iPhone.
phi_'s avatar
15 years ago
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phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
Asemi, let me known how the G1 is ... I'm kind of interested in it.
lucas's avatar
15 years ago
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lucas
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f3c? http://www.krazymarket.com/item_details.php?i … ;idp=13409

f3c!

http://marketplace.publicradio.org/display/we … ng_phones/

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2008/ … lifted.ars
asemisldkfj's avatar
15 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
what's the c for?
lucas's avatar
15 years ago
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lucas
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cdma.
asemisldkfj's avatar
15 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
installing the unofficial build of Android 1.5 right now. just got root access on the phone and and about to install the update.
asemisldkfj's avatar
15 years ago
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asemisldkfj
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nevermind I just reverted back, haha. the new build was kind of sketchy. one of them was somehow stuck in some non-Roman alphabet Asian language and the other one looped this weird music on boot after I installed the new "radio" update. that sketched me out so I am back to normal now. hopefully the real 1.5 will get released soon!
asemisldkfj's avatar
15 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
I'm going back to my Motofone. anyone interested in buying my G1?
phi_'s avatar
15 years ago
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phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
*raises hand*
asemisldkfj's avatar
15 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
that was easy
nestor's avatar
15 years ago
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nestor
nestor
what's the deal with the android? i want a new phone and it's either an android (coming to canada june 2nd) or a blackberry (bold or gsm curve)
asemisldkfj's avatar
15 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
I dug Android a lot. just didn't dig paying a ton for a data plan that I didn't really need. I haven't used a Blackberry OS for a while, but in the past it has given me the impression that it is behind the curve and seriously ugly.
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15 years ago
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nestor
nestor
i'm locked into a data contract for about 2 years. i pay $30 a month for 6GB.

new blackberry os is really nice. more responsive than iphone os at least. consistent and pretty design too. with video/audio player functionality (3.5" stereo plug as well) and 1GB onboard + CF or whatever expansion.
asemisldkfj's avatar
15 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
how's the web browser, multitasking, and contact/calendar sync?
nestor's avatar
15 years ago
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nestor
nestor
contact/calendar sync is good, at least with outlook/microsoft exchange. multitasking is supported. browser is mediocre, but the new 3rd party apps feature opera has released a bb version, mozilla is working on a firefox. app aesthetics are generally more spartan than iphone, but i don't mind.. it's way too slow for my taste.
lucas's avatar
15 years ago
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lucas
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which bb did you get?
asemisldkfj's avatar
15 years ago
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asemisldkfj
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yeah, I was curious how well it works with other contact/calendar setups. kinda stinks it doesn't have a really solid stock browser, but Opera works ok. the stock browser on Android was great when I used it. I guess it's similarly kind of locked in to a contact/calendar setup (Google, obviously). multitasking worked well but it was weird that you could never "close" or "exit" an app. and that reminds me, does Blackberry have anything comparable to Apple's app store or Android's market yet? meaning, does it not totally suck?
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15 years ago
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nestor
lr > didn't get one. this is from using friends' berries

asemi > i'm not sure, as most of my friends are technophobes and use outlook. i'd still be using gmail/gcal :)

did android's browser have flash support? that is one of the bigger problems with iphone safari.

they have 'app world', not really sure how well it works. i don't use that many 3rd party apps on my iphone - thomson reuters, bloomberg, cydia's flashlight, and pdanet, heh
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15 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
no Flash support :(
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15 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
I am back in the land of smartphones. I bought a myTouch yesterday. it rules. Android in a sleeker hardware package!
andre's avatar
15 years ago
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andre
I want an N900.
asemisldkfj's avatar
15 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
I saw your tweet :).
nestor's avatar
15 years ago
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nestor
nestor
giving the iphone away today. it's blackberry time
asemisldkfj's avatar
15 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
how come?
asemisldkfj's avatar
15 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
PS - Android has Exchange support now (it probably sucks though)
nestor's avatar
15 years ago
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nestor
nestor
need a real keyboard. also blackberry messenger, real multitasking, iphones are dumb
asemisldkfj's avatar
15 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
fair enough. I am digging android pretty hard right now. which blackberry are you getting?
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15 years ago
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nestor
nestor
bold
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15 years ago
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nestor
nestor
And I'm on it! Tweaking to ensue.
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14 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
I have been going through phones like a motherfucker lately. here's what I want:

1. support for imap sent and draft folders
2. imap idle support
3. 3g
4. caldav support
5. ldap contact support

I think that's it.

android is annoying because it's awesome if you buy into all of google's services (gmail and google calendar mostly), but kind of blows otherwise. the email app for non-gmail accounts is a piece of shit. there's a pretty good third-party one with imap idle support, but it feels like a compromise. the calendar app doesn't support caldav. there are apparently "sync adapters" in android for contact syncing with non-google sources, but the only one built in is facebook, and there is a serious lack of documentation for writing your own. 3g with t-mobile is nice, but honestly the browser kind of blows and just randomly doesn't load pages/gets stuck halfway.

symbian is ok. I have an e71. imap support sucks though. it saves the phone is designed for people who have caps on their data plans or something, because it always asks if it can connect. imap idle is supported but the mailboxes will randomly lose their connection and stuff. not reliable at all. I've gone all day before without realizing it was disconnected, come home, and seen like six new emails my phone didn't get. I've read the calendar app does caldav, but I couldn't find it in the settings. contacts and calendar will sync to my macbook though which is good enough. no t-mobile 3g on any nokia phones except the n900 though, but honestly the browser works just as well as the android one. other than the aliased fonts.

I traded my old mytouch for a first gen iphone today. iphone os has good imap support from what I've read. no idle support though, so I'll just have to set it to check every five minutes or so. no 3g since I'm on t-mobile, but this wasn't a big deal on symbian since the browse didn't suck, so it probably won't be on here either. there is caldav support. ldap support too. I don't have either of those set up on my server yet, but I probably will eventually. for now syncing with my macbook will be fine.

yep.
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14 years ago
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the law is no protection
anyone seen the new windows 7 series phone or whatever they're calling it? it kind of looks like shit.
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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lucas
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I got a blackberry 9630 for work.
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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lucas
i ❤ demo
Ttf on the can!
nestor's avatar
14 years ago
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nestor
nestor
where are you working lr?
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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lucas
i ❤ demo
www.rightnow.com

i got hired into a position created just for me: qa test and documentation engineer
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14 years ago
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nny
M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
Have you looked at Nokia?
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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lucas
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me? i didn't have a choice. it was provided by our i.s. dept.
 
14 years ago
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karpet
awesomeness!
that looks like a pretty sweet gig lucas
asemisldkfj's avatar
14 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
I'm back with the motofone. lovin it.
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14 years ago
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DaGr8Gatzby
Drunk by Myself
Man wtf. Seriously? Jesus :(
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14 years ago
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DaGr8Gatzby
Drunk by Myself
On a better note my N900 is back in my hands. Nokia shipped out a replacement. :)
asemisldkfj's avatar
14 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
saving 20 bucks a month with no data plan!
ozntz's avatar
14 years ago
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ozntz
toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
I need a new cell phone problem is they all look like cheep pieces of shit. Verizon
dannyp's avatar
14 years ago
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dannyp
dʎuuɐp
motorola droid 2.

or if you don't like qwerty keyboards on your phone, droid x.
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14 years ago
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nny
M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
i love my droid 1
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14 years ago
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ozntz
toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
but your required to have a data plan. I don't have a need to pay for that, if i'm expecting to need something will just bring my blackberry
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14 years ago
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nny
M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
whatever tickles your pickle.
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14 years ago
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Martin
LG GW620.

Runs Android. LG opensourced all their drivers so I guess that's cool.

Also considered the N900 and some other models, in the end I went with this one because it had the best keyboard.
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13 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
I got a blue motofone from the uk.
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13 years ago
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phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
Nice!