i'm going to go apply for a passport tomorrow morning. i'm going to get a book and a card .
kinda weird, yet cool, huh? fuck state drivers licenses. (and yes, i'm am voluntarily carrying a national id card.)
kinda weird, yet cool, huh? fuck state drivers licenses. (and yes, i'm am voluntarily carrying a national id card.)
wait.. they don't show name or age or anything. that sucks. :(
weird and cool.
i have no problems with national i.d. cards, maybe it is because i'm canadian.
i have no problems with national i.d. cards, maybe it is because i'm canadian.
To facilitate the frequent travel of U.S. citizens living in border communities and to meet DHS’s operational needs at land borders, the passport card will contain a vicinity-read radio frequency identification (RFID) chip. This chip will link the card to a stored record in secure government databases. There will be no personal information written to the RFID chip itself.
i think i'll apply for the card tomorrow, no need to drop a full hundo for the ability to do something i can't afford (fly out of the country)
i would use it as my daily id, except that it doesn't seem to have any information on it except for a picture. sucks. :(
wait until bars get rfid readers :o
The deal with the RealID act is that it WON'T be in a govt. run database. Its held with a private company.
fuck realID and glad governor Schweitzer is not complying with that bullshit.
heres the link in case anyone here hasn't seen it
http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/01/mont … verno.html
heres the link in case anyone here hasn't seen it
http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/01/mont … verno.html
rfid isn't secure. . . someone walking by you can steal the info and steal your identity.
they say they don't store info on the card. you think they do?
i applied at the office of the clerk of the district court. they were excited because i was the first person to apply today on the new form.
got tied up in interviews so i guess i'll be applying on mon.
sriehl: rfid isn't secure. . . someone walking by you can steal the info and steal your identity.
The RFID technology used in the passport card will enable the card to be read at a distance by an authorized CBP reader mounted alongside the traffic lane. The chip contains no biographic data as is the case with the e-passport. The chip will have a unique number linking the card to a secure database maintained by DHS and State. However, to address concerns that passport card bearers can be tracked by this technology, we are requiring that the vendor provide a sleeve that will prevent the card from being read while inside it.
italics mine. My passport is an e-passport. I'm not too worried about this, even if an identity thief did have my special number, they would have to check against that state database to get my info.
So lr, let us know if you get a sleeve too!
kk
The sleeve on the full passport in built into the book but has already been shown to be ineffective if you are close enough.
<quote>
Data stored on the RFID chip:
* Digital photo
* Name
* Gender
* Nationality
* Date of birth
* Place of birth
* Passport number
* Issue date
* Expiration date
* Type of passport
* Digital signature that prevents stored data from being altered
Tracking Risk. Travelers using their passports as a form of day-to-day identification could expose the RFID chip in potentially insecure settings. Cryptographic protection prevents the data from being accessed by clandestine scanners, but RFID chips still emit a unique identification number (UID). Americans could conceivably be tracked through their UID, which would be exposed every time they opened their passports. The State Department says it's heading off that possibility by ensuring the chip emits random UIDs.</quote>
http://www.govexec.com/features/0606-15/0606-15na4.htm
<quote>
Data stored on the RFID chip:
* Digital photo
* Name
* Gender
* Nationality
* Date of birth
* Place of birth
* Passport number
* Issue date
* Expiration date
* Type of passport
* Digital signature that prevents stored data from being altered
Tracking Risk. Travelers using their passports as a form of day-to-day identification could expose the RFID chip in potentially insecure settings. Cryptographic protection prevents the data from being accessed by clandestine scanners, but RFID chips still emit a unique identification number (UID). Americans could conceivably be tracked through their UID, which would be exposed every time they opened their passports. The State Department says it's heading off that possibility by ensuring the chip emits random UIDs.</quote>
http://www.govexec.com/features/0606-15/0606-15na4.htm
sorry i thought dp was talking about the passport but the quotes were related to the card
I'm saying someone can pick up your unique id. They then can essentially clone it and make another rfid chip that gives the same id number.
yeah good luck fraudsters, get ready to go to prison for a felony.
it's not worth not having a passport because you are so paranoid, I'd rather be running the globe than waiting for some douche bag with an rfid gun sneaking around who looks like him to steal an identity.
I'm more concerned about getting hit by a truck, or having a freak accident. That will fuck me so much more.
it's not worth not having a passport because you are so paranoid, I'd rather be running the globe than waiting for some douche bag with an rfid gun sneaking around who looks like him to steal an identity.
I'm more concerned about getting hit by a truck, or having a freak accident. That will fuck me so much more.
they got my passport mailed out yesterday. :)
I'm thinking about getting one, along with an RFID reader, and trying to break the encryption. Would you guys be interested in that? I need to get my passport anyways. They aren't allowing anyone without a passport inside mexico. I NEED MY MEXICAN COKES DAMMIT! Asemi knows what's up.
what encryption?
wanna mail me some mexican cokes? :D
wanna mail me some mexican cokes? :D
like coke made with cane sugar vs. HFCS?
i'd want that too.
i'd want that too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Passport#Biometric_passport
I'm assuming the BAC session makes some type of encryption possible upon transmission of the data. I would be VERY interested in reverse engineering this.
Larz, watch for FBI/CIA IPs on TTF :)
I'm assuming the BAC session makes some type of encryption possible upon transmission of the data. I would be VERY interested in reverse engineering this.
Larz, watch for FBI/CIA IPs on TTF :)
Oh and nestor,
Yes you are correct. Cane sugar coca-cola is SO SO much better.Ask Asemi. He drank about four at some Brazilian pizza place.
Yes you are correct. Cane sugar coca-cola is SO SO much better.Ask Asemi. He drank about four at some Brazilian pizza place.
it sounds better. too bad i'm like 2000mi from mexico.
I bet you could find somewhere near you that carries it. it was a Brazilian convenience store where I found it. it's the only place I know of around here that has it. mmm.
kingston is one of the least culturally diverse cities in north america, i could probably find it in toronto though.
got my passport in the mail today. thirteen day turnaround!
re: mexican coke
so i was sitting in my parents hot tub reading some michael ondaatje. i grabbed a coke from the fridge. i started drinking it and then i thought about mexican coke.
it made me quite dissatisfied with my beverage.
so i was sitting in my parents hot tub reading some michael ondaatje. i grabbed a coke from the fridge. i started drinking it and then i thought about mexican coke.
it made me quite dissatisfied with my beverage.
You should try Joya
> Larz, watch for FBI/CIA IPs on TTF :)
NSA?
NSA?
this post has been archived.
cia isn't allowed to spy domestically
and i doubt nsa does too much
fbi probably does
and i think we have a reciprocity agreement with the u.k. where the cia spys on brits and the sis spys on americans and the respective agencies share intelligence
and i doubt nsa does too much
fbi probably does
and i think we have a reciprocity agreement with the u.k. where the cia spys on brits and the sis spys on americans and the respective agencies share intelligence
haha. 'domestic spying' what an odd concept
i got my u.s. passport card today. :D
it's pretty ridiculous looking. i can't wait until i buy alcohol next time, because i'm going to use it as id and confuse some people.
it's pretty ridiculous looking. i can't wait until i buy alcohol next time, because i'm going to use it as id and confuse some people.
i had to use it to get into a movie once :(
haha
when did you get your card?
when did you get your card?
dp> So lr, let us know if you get a sleeve too!
yeah, it came with a foil sleeve.
yeah, it came with a foil sleeve.
i got it in 2007
they didn't make passport cards in 2007... *shifty-face*
wait, what the f is a passport card?
guess i should not have cleared this thread when i went on a freshie spree
see the first post in the thread for the link.
it took THAT long?! holy crap.
i'd love a passport as then it could fit in my wallet but it clearly isn't a full passport... no room for visas/stamps etc.
i'd love a passport as then it could fit in my wallet but it clearly isn't a full passport... no room for visas/stamps etc.
just some updated info on rfid passport jacking techniques:
http://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2009/12/52836-a … s/fulltext
http://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2009/12/52836-a … s/fulltext