i have been meaning to clean up genre tags in itunes for a while... so i did. here is how it broke down (total library 10113 songs)
hip-hop 31.93% <- 3229 songs
rock 18.96%
indie pop 9.70%
folk 7.98%
electronic 7.85%
experimental 6.83%
punk 4.68%
jazz 3.14%
pop 1.96%
classical 1.77%
metal 1.40%
prog rock 0.91% <- 92 songs
there are a few more after that (soul country blues reggae) that had a handful.
hip-hop 31.93% <- 3229 songs
rock 18.96%
indie pop 9.70%
folk 7.98%
electronic 7.85%
experimental 6.83%
punk 4.68%
jazz 3.14%
pop 1.96%
classical 1.77%
metal 1.40%
prog rock 0.91% <- 92 songs
there are a few more after that (soul country blues reggae) that had a handful.
here's mine, surprise surprise: omi
damnit, i fail
i really have a hate on for genres right now. wtf is 'indie rock'. i got rid of that one in my itunes library but last.fm is full of straight up 'indie' tags. e.g. buck 65 is tagged with 'indie'. he is signed to warner. obv warner is NOT indie.
i kept 'indie pop' because it's like pop that isn't popular. any thoughts?
i kept 'indie pop' because it's like pop that isn't popular. any thoughts?
or modest mouse. great band, love their stuff, but they are signed to epic (sony). again, not independent.
they have an "indie rock" sound.
which might be the cause for their unpopularity in comparison to other artists signed with major labels.
so how about:
indie rock
unpopular rock
rock
indie pop
unpopular pop
pop
which might be the cause for their unpopularity in comparison to other artists signed with major labels.
so how about:
indie rock
unpopular rock
rock
indie pop
unpopular pop
pop
i struggle to identify what indie rock sound is. independent rock - folksy (these days, at least)? then it is folk rock.
i don't believe in underground hip-hop either. hip-hop is hip-hop, from kanye to sole.
i don't believe in underground hip-hop either. hip-hop is hip-hop, from kanye to sole.
i draw a line between hip-hop and rap. to draw the line, i consider the label (indie or not) and then lyrics/style (racism, sexism, violence, etc).
imho
rap = hip-hop. i use the word hip-hop because i think it represents the music better. i understand the distinction you are making, but i think it is more of gangsterism vs rest
on that note, i think a lot of the hip-hop i listen to is really outside the historical tradition of hip-hop e.g. anticon, and some of def jux, etc.
i used to think (in typical whiteboy backpacker style) that that stuff i liked was the 'real hip-hop', but after doing a bit of thinking and reading, that is such a ridiculous assertion... hip-hop is inherently political, inherently oppressed, inherently racial. it is challenging, but not necessarily musically. more anon though, too much coffee right now. that was a vicious ramble
rap = hip-hop. i use the word hip-hop because i think it represents the music better. i understand the distinction you are making, but i think it is more of gangsterism vs rest
on that note, i think a lot of the hip-hop i listen to is really outside the historical tradition of hip-hop e.g. anticon, and some of def jux, etc.
i used to think (in typical whiteboy backpacker style) that that stuff i liked was the 'real hip-hop', but after doing a bit of thinking and reading, that is such a ridiculous assertion... hip-hop is inherently political, inherently oppressed, inherently racial. it is challenging, but not necessarily musically. more anon though, too much coffee right now. that was a vicious ramble
> i think it is more of gangsterism vs rest
that's kinda what i mean, and i call "that rap vs. hip-hop"
> too much coffee right now. that was a vicious ramble
\o/
that's kinda what i mean, and i call "that rap vs. hip-hop"
> too much coffee right now. that was a vicious ramble
\o/
rap is something you do, hip-hop is something you live.
I go by that. rapping is an act, hip-hop is more of a culture type of thing.
I go by that. rapping is an act, hip-hop is more of a culture type of thing.
> hip-hop is something you live.
krs-one?
krs-one?
yes.
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binary star:
"You see cats got confused somewhere man (confused)
About what hip-hop was, you know what I'm sayin'
Or what hip-hop is, (it's business yo) you know it
It's all business
(its big money, know what I'm sayin' that's all these cats about)
You know that's bullshit, right? That's nigga talk, nigga talk
But if you want to make money yo, I got it broke down though
I got it broke down, (break it down yo)
You got hip-hop, then you got hip-pop
Hip-pop? (hip-pop)
Alright, (but a lot of cats want pop)
Yes, (know what I'm sayin')
It used to be real hip
You got the top forty version of hip-hop"
yeah, i'd say labels shouldn't even enter into the genre of a band. genre to me is all about musical sound and while a label may change a band's sound, the correlation of a sound change and label change is purely coincidental unless i hear otherwise from the band themselves. As to hip-hop, i consider it a culture but a part of that culture is the music (two of the four elements) which would retain the same name (kind of like country). if you really want to get into it, rapping and djing are two separate elements within hip-hop so the genre of rap shouldn't exist. that said, if someone repeated the last three sentences of this post to me i'd probably slap them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_elements_of_hip_hop
"You see cats got confused somewhere man (confused)
About what hip-hop was, you know what I'm sayin'
Or what hip-hop is, (it's business yo) you know it
It's all business
(its big money, know what I'm sayin' that's all these cats about)
You know that's bullshit, right? That's nigga talk, nigga talk
But if you want to make money yo, I got it broke down though
I got it broke down, (break it down yo)
You got hip-hop, then you got hip-pop
Hip-pop? (hip-pop)
Alright, (but a lot of cats want pop)
Yes, (know what I'm sayin')
It used to be real hip
You got the top forty version of hip-hop"
yeah, i'd say labels shouldn't even enter into the genre of a band. genre to me is all about musical sound and while a label may change a band's sound, the correlation of a sound change and label change is purely coincidental unless i hear otherwise from the band themselves. As to hip-hop, i consider it a culture but a part of that culture is the music (two of the four elements) which would retain the same name (kind of like country). if you really want to get into it, rapping and djing are two separate elements within hip-hop so the genre of rap shouldn't exist. that said, if someone repeated the last three sentences of this post to me i'd probably slap them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_elements_of_hip_hop
was going to say something like what you said dbrown but then i thought of the same thing that you noted at the end :)
*slap*
on another note, i love how mystical the 'elements' of hip-hop are
*slap*
on another note, i love how mystical the 'elements' of hip-hop are