think tank forum

general discussion » Finding a bank.

phi_'s avatar
16 years ago
link
phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
Long story short, my bank account is no more. So I'm shopping around for one!

I was thinking Washington Mutual, any suggestions otherwise?
lucas's avatar
16 years ago
link
lucas
i ❤ demo
u.s. bank could be nice (free checks, really good savings and cd rates, one of the best federal student loan servicers)
lucas's avatar
16 years ago
link
lucas
i ❤ demo
and there are awesome online checking account deals these days

for example, charles schwab
http://www.schwab.com/public/schwab/banking_l … 2=checking
no minimum balance
get good interest on your balance (currently 2.26% apy)
free checks
no-fee atm card (if the atm charges a fee, they pay it)

so i'd check out the online scene, as long as you use direct deposit for most things.
nestor's avatar
16 years ago
link
nestor
nestor
american banking is so hot

damn

online banks! shit son
phi_'s avatar
16 years ago
link
phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
I don't do direct deposit, so visiting a branch is a must.
Chiken's avatar
16 years ago
link
Chiken
Don't Let Your Walls Down
that schwab one sounds like what i have at wells fargo except i dont get the no-fee atm card.
lucas's avatar
16 years ago
link
lucas
i ❤ demo
chiken: wells fargo gives you interest on your checking balance?! i don't get interest.

that schwab no-fee atm card is hot, though. if i use my wells fargo atm card at another bank's atm, the other bank charges me AND wells fargo charges me. but schwab pays for the other bank's fee. \o/

nestor> american banking is so hot

move out of socialism.
lucas's avatar
16 years ago
link
lucas
i ❤ demo
phi_> I don't do direct deposit, so visiting a branch is a must.

can you do direct deposit? you can also mail in deposits.
nestor's avatar
16 years ago
link
nestor
nestor
lr> move out of socialism

i'm going to. that is why i'm transferring. my current business school places about 3-4 people into ny each year, where i'm going about 10% of the class goes to the us (~30 people), split evenly between ny and la (in investment banking).
phi_'s avatar
16 years ago
link
phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
> can you do direct deposit? you can also mail in deposits.

I can, but I don't like to. I've had a lot of bad luck with direct deposits in the past (had it with my past 2 jobs), so I'd just rather visit a branch.

Plus I like forcing myself to interact with people on a regular basis. I'm too much of a hermit because of my job.
lucas's avatar
16 years ago
link
lucas
i ❤ demo
i thought you had a girlfriend
phi_'s avatar
16 years ago
link
phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
haha

I've been looking over the Schwab page. Seems like a good deal. Even with direct deposit.
nny's avatar
16 years ago
link
nny
M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
If JPMC buys out something like wamu that's prolly the way to go.
phi_'s avatar
16 years ago
link
phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
Went with Schwab. Set up direct deposit with work. Just waiting on deposit slips/card/etc from the bank.
lucas's avatar
16 years ago
link
lucas
i ❤ demo
haha yes!
phi_'s avatar
16 years ago
link
phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
It's time for me to man up!
nestor's avatar
15 years ago
link
nestor
nestor
i have to open yet another bank account with my new employer.
damn, so long as i continue working in finance i'm gonna accrue a shitload of accounts.

speaking of, my old employer lloyds tsb was recently nationalized by the british government. i still have a couple hundred pounds in my account there too.
phi_'s avatar
15 years ago
link
phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
That's insane, nestor.
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
link
lucas
i ❤ demo
ok, let's talk online banks again!

i just found this one: ally. their website looks nice. plus they refund atm fees charged by other banks, which i love. think it's legit?

other suggestions? (francis, i don't want to use the first bank of arkansas. :p )
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
link
lucas
i ❤ demo
apparently you're lucky to get 1.00% apy on online checking accounts right now. back in 2008, it used to be 2.25% apy. :[
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
r1, link
lucas
i ❤ demo
oh, gmac became ally. also, gmac/ally is majority-owned by the u.s. treasury. :) nothing quite like nationalized banks.
bsdlite's avatar
14 years ago
link
bsdlite
thinks darkness is his ally
what about online savings? i'm still using my hsbc direct account that i opened in 2007, but their rate is shit town.
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
link
lucas
i ❤ demo
capital one bank is both enticing and creepy
nny's avatar
14 years ago
link
nny
M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
Go nowhere near them.
Étrangère's avatar
14 years ago
link
Étrangère
I am not a robot...
I hope Wells Fargo is nice to me. It's big and fat compared to small, cute First Interstate Bank.

I still don't know what to think about my US Bank account. I forgot about it until recently.
dannyp's avatar
13 years ago
link
dannyp
dʎuuɐp
I just closed out my Chase accounts.

To credit unions I go? Rates are shit today, investing is probably the way to go.
nny's avatar
13 years ago
link
nny
M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
I've been pretty happy with wells fargo thus far but I'm not exactly asking a lot of them yet.
dannyp's avatar
13 years ago
link
dannyp
dʎuuɐp
i'll look into it. i missed that wells fargo deal on the ipod touch for a new account and 5 transactions in a month or whatever. not that i want a touch but i could flip that.
lucas's avatar
13 years ago
link
lucas
i ❤ demo
damn, i wish i had known about that deal.
lucas's avatar
13 years ago
link
lucas
i ❤ demo
yes!

https://www.google.com/comparisonads/ussavings
dannyp's avatar
13 years ago
link
dannyp
dʎuuɐp
solid
lucas's avatar
13 years ago
link
lucas
i ❤ demo
u.s. bank sent a card to my residence that offered $150 if i open a personal checking account and set up direct deposit. i did that yesterday.

i like how banks are paying for customers
lucas's avatar
13 years ago
link
lucas
i ❤ demo
i'm rocking that offer
lucas's avatar
13 years ago
r1, link
lucas
i ❤ demo
just got the $150 credit: "adjusted interest"
nny's avatar
13 years ago
link
nny
M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
been pretty pleased with wells fargo so far. i feel like a battered husband escaping from the clutches of capital one. i don't think I will ever be able to explain what it was like having a call center employee break down in tears apologizing for being unable to assist me... but that actually happened at capital one... their capacity for generating policy blackholes was unrivaled.
lucas's avatar
13 years ago
link
lucas
i ❤ demo
sounds cool
lucas's avatar
13 years ago
link
lucas
i ❤ demo
p.s. i live in corporate america, and i <3 policies
nny's avatar
13 years ago
link
nny
M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
I have lived in corp america.. now i live in us gov... and i am of the opinion that policies are generated by evil people hell bent on the destruction of all mankind.
lucas's avatar
13 years ago
link
lucas
i ❤ demo
definitely

i think they're more likely in larger organizations (whether private or public)
lucas's avatar
13 years ago
r1, link
lucas
i ❤ demo
almost every bank is pushing fees on every account unless jump through hoops.

as a result, i think there are only two players--ing direct and ally.

ally
gives you a mastercard debit card
reimburses atm fees up to $6 per month
gives you free checks
will mail checks on your behalf

ing direct
gives you a mastercard debit card
no atm reimbursement, but has a good atm network (allpoint)
no checks available
will mail checks on your behalf

i'm going with ally. it seems more flexible.
phi_'s avatar
13 years ago
r1, link
phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
Haven't had a bank account since July ... *sigh*

rev: the Ally checking account looks nice, especially since most of my income from HostGator will just be sitting in a bank account.
Étrangère's avatar
13 years ago
link
Étrangère
I am not a robot...
Dude where do you keep your money? In your boots?
phi_'s avatar
13 years ago
link
phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
What money! I haven't had a job in over a year.
lucas's avatar
13 years ago
link
lucas
i ❤ demo
nevermind, ally will reimburse seemingly unlimited atm fees,according to the agreement they mailed to me. the agreement also says that if the reimbursed atm fees totals $600 in a year, the amount will be reported on a misc-1099 form.

amazing.

consequently, ally meets or beats ing direct on all points (except for name brand). but ally is the successor to gmac, for what it's worth.
Étrangère's avatar
13 years ago
link
Étrangère
I am not a robot...
> What money! I haven't had a job in over a year.

Well I mean you're living on something...
phi_'s avatar
13 years ago
link
phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
Financial aid ... and doing some work friends don't wanna do or need help with (like remodelling my soon-to-be-landlord's house).
Étrangère's avatar
13 years ago
link
Étrangère
I am not a robot...
In my ideal world, I would pay for everything via barter/trade/exchange.
phi_'s avatar
13 years ago
link
phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
Same here, Etrangere. That's actually how I got all of my extras while unemployed, I would do favors/repairs/whatever for friends in exchange for some cash or cigarettes or food or whatever I wanted/needed. While it worked well for that, it proved to be impossible for sustained living ...
lucas's avatar
13 years ago
link
lucas
i ❤ demo
> In my ideal world, I would pay for everything via barter/trade/exchange.

i thought that the people in your ideal world use gold coins
nny's avatar
13 years ago
link
nny
M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
The very notion of debt exceeding a pay check is absurd to me. It should NOT happen.
lucas's avatar
13 years ago
link
lucas
i ❤ demo
luckily economics is blind to debt

another way of putting it: you think that investing is absurd?
Étrangère's avatar
13 years ago
link
Étrangère
I am not a robot...
investing is gambling! we love gambling here in the USofA :D
Étrangère's avatar
13 years ago
link
Étrangère
I am not a robot...
> i thought that the people in your ideal world use gold coins

True, because in Atlas Shrugged they only earned those gold coins by means of equal effort. \o/
lucas's avatar
13 years ago
link
lucas
i ❤ demo
> investing is gambling! we love gambling here in the USofA :D

define gambling. investing involves a few unknowns and a reasonable risk profile. traditional "gambling" involves no unknowns and a terrible risk profile.

> True, because in Atlas Shrugged they only earned those gold coins by means of equal effort. \o/

you mean equal valuation? that's different
lucas's avatar
13 years ago
link
lucas
i ❤ demo
economies would move so slowly if no one borrowed nor invested

i think such an idea is the antithesis of nestor's existence, and quite possibly mine as well
bluet's avatar
13 years ago
link
bluet
Hmm, I used to be the biggest commie, but now I don't know anymore. :/
nny's avatar
13 years ago
link
nny
M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
I do think investing is absurd. The way it is done today.
nestor's avatar
13 years ago
link
nestor
nestor
> i think such an idea is the antithesis of nestor's existence, and quite possibly mine as well

pretty much.
phi_'s avatar
13 years ago
link
phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
But is that a bad thing?
Étrangère's avatar
13 years ago
link
Étrangère
I am not a robot...
> you mean equal valuation? that's different

I suppose I mean both.

> i think such an idea is the antithesis of nestor's existence, and quite possibly mine as well

Yeah, seems that way, doesn't it?
nestor's avatar
13 years ago
link
nestor
nestor
investment of some sort is permanent - we are inclined as a species to develop new things / ideas through investing our time in risky ventures.

maybe i'm missing something here.
asemisldkfj's avatar
13 years ago
link
asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
what happened, bluet?
lucas's avatar
13 years ago
link
lucas
i ❤ demo
he became a consumer :p
bluet's avatar
13 years ago
link
bluet
> he became a consumer :p

Maybe. I dunno yet. :/