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phi_'s avatar
16 years ago
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... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
I'm thinking of this design for my first tattoo.

Opinions?
phi_'s avatar
16 years ago
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phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
And to answer the what-is-that question, it's part of the Geneva drive
DaGr8Gatzby's avatar
16 years ago
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That looks pretty good. I think I need an idea for a sleeve extending from my right arm to my right pectoral.
asemisldkfj's avatar
16 years ago
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cool. does it have any meaning to you or do you just think it's cool? not to say either one of those should disqualify it as a tattoo.
andyp's avatar
16 years ago
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nothing is wrong - what are you scared of?
pretty crazy gear.. never seen that before! it is used in watches?

where are you getting it on your body?

go big!

my next one is going to be gigantic!
Chiken's avatar
16 years ago
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hell yeah, get it on your entire back!

were are you getting your gigantic tattoo ap? since your back is already pretty much covered, i can't really think of any other place to get a gigantic tattoo.
phi_'s avatar
16 years ago
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The device is used to translate continuous motion into intermittent motion; naturally, it's most common usage is on movie projectors. It's also used on mechanical watches, but for a slightly different reason.

It's mainly to remind me of my way-too-intense love of movies as well as some realizations I've come to the past few months.

Anyway, I'm thinking of it being about 3-4" across on the inside of my left forearm, a few inches away from the wrist.
Chiken's avatar
16 years ago
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Chiken
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ah man, thats gonna hurt!
asemisldkfj's avatar
16 years ago
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asemisldkfj
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that sounds really cool! I say go for it. good placement too.
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16 years ago
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well i actually have quite a bit of room left on my back. the tree is fairly small and in the center, so i have all kinds of room on the sides. I am thinking about getting it on the side of my hip going up the side and a little bit on my stomach.

i'm going to work on doing a suit which sort of goes from 3/4 length arms to your shoulders but splits in the middle on the chest and goes all the way down to half way down my legs before the knees. I kind of want to do it japanese style.. i just need to find a good artist.
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16 years ago
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oopps that was andyp i forgot to log off haleys shit!
Chiken's avatar
16 years ago
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Chiken
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interesting ap. you dont see to many suits on the front.
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16 years ago
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andyp
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/harizanmai/22019 … koi_tattoo

sort of what i was thinking
andyp's avatar
16 years ago
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andyp
nothing is wrong - what are you scared of?
so.. did you deface your temple or what?!
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16 years ago
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Carpetsmoker
Martin
Can't say I like those Japanese-style tatoos ...
Chiken's avatar
16 years ago
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Chiken
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some of em are cool, but i would never really get into em

I personally love really detailed black and white ones, pinups, and rockabilly style tattoos the best.
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16 years ago
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I kind of want to get this…

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/3120/nmtbgb9.jpg
phi_'s avatar
16 years ago
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... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
That could go either way, asemi. I say sleep on it and see how you feel about it later.

Try drawing it on your arm (or wherever you want it) in Sharpie(TM) and see how you like it?
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16 years ago
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bluet
it'd be nice on your belly
DaGr8Gatzby's avatar
16 years ago
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What is that?
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16 years ago
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yeah, I'm not going to get it soon or anything.

I was thinking my arm somewhere, bluet :).

it's a Chumbawamba album cover for the album Never Mind the Ballots.
phi_'s avatar
15 years ago
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Got my first tattoo a little over a week ago. Don't know why I haven't posted it yet!

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y140/phi_/DSC00043.jpg
lucas's avatar
15 years ago
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the pallet of maxi-pads in the background is a nice touch.
Étrangère's avatar
15 years ago
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Étrangère
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What appealed to you about putting your tattoo there? I'm curious as to why it's such a popular spot for men, but not so much for women (or at least not that I've seen)
lucas's avatar
15 years ago
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tattoos should be placed around what the person wants to bring attention to.

in the case of men, it's usually biceps/arms/chest. with women, it's usually crotch/ass/back. yeah?
andyp's avatar
15 years ago
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andyp
nothing is wrong - what are you scared of?
i tend to place tattoos where i feel like they need to be in order to sort of balance myself out..
phi_'s avatar
15 years ago
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phi_
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Placement had more to do with larger surface area than anything else. The fine lines and lettering made my brother and I (we got them matching) choose that spot.
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15 years ago
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Placement has a lot of elements for me. It all depends on the size of piece, style, and where im lacking in ink.

so right now, I've got a tattoo on my chest and upper back, so I'm kinda feeling like the lower part of my upper boddy is a little to plain. Also, the tattoo on my chest in on the left side, so for my next tattoo I'm going to do a piece from just under my armpit to my hip and have it extend partially onto my stomach and back on my right side. Thus evening out the all upper body and right side barrenness.

I would put it on the mid/lower part of my back but thats reserved for the rest of my western mural I've got mapped out in my head.
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15 years ago
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> tattoos should be placed around what the person wants to bring attention to.

None of the guys I know with them have well-muscled arms, and some of them (for example: my brother) don't go shirtless or wear sleeveless shirts ever...I hate thinking someone would tattoo something on his/her body purely for others' enjoyment.

I put mine where I wanted to see it.

> in the case of men, it's usually biceps/arms/chest. with women, it's usually crotch/ass/back. yeah?

..You think "crotch" is in the top three? No way! Ass/back/shoulder blade, sure. I don't know any women with crotch tattoos. I think men far outweigh women in that area.


phi_'s avatar
15 years ago
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phi_
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> I don't know any women with crotch tattoos.

I do! Multiple women.
Chiken's avatar
15 years ago
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Chiken
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i think most men do it on the arm, especially for a first one, because it is one of the less painful places to get a tattoo and also because it's a place that is always/easily covered up as well as not being in a place that instantly draws attention.
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15 years ago
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by crotch, i meant within maybe 6" of the vulva. so this includes upper inner thighs, mound of venus, distal abdomen, and hips--basically hidden by the front of underwear. ass can be the back half hidden by underwear.
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15 years ago
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@ Chiken: oh. yeah, I suppose that makes sense.

@ phi_: lucky boy.

@ lucas: I don't understand your reasoning. Just because two areas happen to be covered by the same article of clothing does not mean they are the same thing. That's like saying your shoulders are your chest because both are covered by a shirt...

Is my hip my crotch? No...my hip is my hip.
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15 years ago
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what is a crotch? i guess i personally think it's the same as the groin area. if a crotch was just a hole between your legs, then not many people would have crotch tattoos. :)

i didn't mean that all of the hip is crotch area. i think of parts of the hip to be the boundary of the crotch.
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15 years ago
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Fuck I am so turned on.

I would love to an ass tattoo. Seriously. I think I've seen more women with tattoos on their wrists than their ass. I also think boobs are nice to tattoo.
Chiken's avatar
15 years ago
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Chiken
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yeah, but when the boobs start to succumb to gravity those tattoo's start to look worse and worse!
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15 years ago
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DaGr8Gatzby
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That's what surgery is for :)
asemisldkfj's avatar
14 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
tomorrow!
phi_'s avatar
14 years ago
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phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
Awesome! Good luck!
Carpetsmoker's avatar
14 years ago
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Martin
Pics or it didn't happen!
asemisldkfj's avatar
14 years ago
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the guy doing it will definitely take some. it's for his portfolio since he's pretty new at it, which is also why he's only charging me ten bucks!
phi_'s avatar
14 years ago
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(Hopefully) Neat! What're you getting, and where are you getting it?
Chiken's avatar
14 years ago
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i want to get a mountain scene tattooed on my back, under my pin-up girl.

like fucking mountains with a forest.........bear on it's hind legs roaring......and a moose. yeah that would be epic but expensive, although black and white no color.

also, i want a separator between the mountain scene and pin up girl. what im thinking is three blue roses, heavy black outline with a touch of gold in the center of the separator, and the rose stems black and white extending out to the edges of the pin up girl.

someday...........someday
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14 years ago
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I'm getting the thing I posted before. bigger image here:

http://planetsareplaces.com/tmp/nmtb%20real%20size.jpg


on my right inner forearm.
Carpetsmoker's avatar
14 years ago
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Martin
I don't understand the picture ...
Étrangère's avatar
14 years ago
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I like the image, but how big will it be on your forearm? It's kind of interesting that you're getting a square tattoo.
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14 years ago
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i also like how it's square.

on another note, i was totally surprised when i discovered this girl i'm dating has a tattoo.
asemisldkfj's avatar
14 years ago
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it's from an album called 'never mind the ballots,' carpetsmoker. the idea is that the electoral process is a poor means of changing anything and a good way to make people think they are changing something.

it'll just be a couple of inches wide probably. he's going to have to reduce the amount of whitespace in the middle in order to fit the fists and stuff without the ink bleeding together.
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14 years ago
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Martin
Right ...

Personally, I would be rather reluctant to tattoo a political statement ... What was that quote again? "Men's opinions change, except for the opinion that they are right" (Or something to that effect ... Maybe if I find a picture which symbolizes that I will tattoo it ...

Anyway, looks like a nice album in any case, it's on youtube I see (Listening now):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeXWnGYsoS0
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14 years ago
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> Got my first tattoo a little over a week ago. Don't know why I haven't posted it yet!
> http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y140/phi_/DSC00043.jpg

Reading this thread, phi_, what does this mean? Only thing I can think of is Richard Stallman .... I sure as hell hope it doesn't mean that for your sake !
phi_'s avatar
14 years ago
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phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
The level and square are symbols of the Freemasons, and in place of the 'G' in the center I put my grandfather's initials, 'RMS'. The dates are his birth year and year of death. Yes, my grandfather was big Freemason. (And a union buster back in the day.)
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14 years ago
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glad you found it on youtube, carpetsmoker :). I know what you mean about political statements, but this is something unspecific enough that I don't think my attitude toward it will change in my lifetime. electoral systems work for some stuff, but the idea that they can bring about meaningful change on their own is something I really don't buy and don't think I ever will. my passion for working on changing the world for the better via means outside of voting isn't something I think I'll ever lose, either.
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14 years ago
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M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
I've always wanted to get a tramp stamp.... I could be ironic and a redneck at the same time... it would be like the ultimate fuck you to trends.
Carpetsmoker's avatar
14 years ago
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Martin
I can appreciate a good tattoo, but there is simply no excuse for a tramp stamp. Ever.
phi_'s avatar
14 years ago
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phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
I've seen some good lookin' tramp stamps in my time, though. I still think the hottest tattoos on girls are on their sides and the crotch area. *drool*
Chiken's avatar
14 years ago
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Chiken
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cleavage tattoos, eye brow piercings and a ,what wikipedia calls "angelbite", piercing.
so. fucking. hot.
phi_'s avatar
14 years ago
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phi_
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My former-better-half had two labia piercings, which was kinda hot. Other than that, septum piercings are up on the pierced-hotness scale. Tongue piercings are weird to me, though... go figure.
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14 years ago
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eyebrow piercings are so '90s. septum is pretty good.

tattoos are hot if they are good tattoos. location is secondary.
Chiken's avatar
14 years ago
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well call me old fashioned then
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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septum piercings are gross to me.
asemisldkfj's avatar
14 years ago
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asemisldkfj
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http://planetsareplaces.com/tmp/tattoo.jpg
phi_'s avatar
14 years ago
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phi_
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Awesome! Looks fantastic!
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14 years ago
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nestor
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damn. looks great!
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14 years ago
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DaGr8Gatzby
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fuck. Am I gonna have to get my Live Now tat now?
asemisldkfj's avatar
14 years ago
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asemisldkfj
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YES
Étrangère's avatar
14 years ago
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Étrangère
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hmm...I like it, asemi!
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14 years ago
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neat!
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14 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
now I want an orwell quote on my other upper arm.
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14 years ago
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Martin
What quote?

I have "The complete works of Orwell" on my bookshelf, waiting to be read ... For like 6 months ... :-/

I've seen the movie though ;-)
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14 years ago
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I'm not sure what quote yet. I just want something orwell.

you should read it! orwell is the best.

the 1984 movie? I actually haven't seen that. 1984 isn't that great anyway.
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14 years ago
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M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
brazil is a better movie.
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14 years ago
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I am considering getting either something along the lines of "00110100 00110010" or http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_yISAujKDyFM/SwSxbNZ … ragile.jpg (B&W, not colour).
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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52 50 or 13362?
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42 ;)
phi_'s avatar
14 years ago
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phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
I saw a guy with "FUCK YOU!" tattooed across his knuckles. hahahaha.
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14 years ago
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nny
M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
Funny you mention knuckles... mine are covered in blood and a very large chunk of my handle bars are missing.
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M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
I'll spare you the gore..

http://www.flickr.com/photos/openfly/5054309851/

handle bar shot. where the damage ends... my hand begins.
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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wha' happen, nny?

> 42 ;)

how does that work? and what meaning does it carry?
bsdlite's avatar
14 years ago
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42: the answer to life, the universe and everything
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14 years ago
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also, the root.
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14 years ago
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bleh

dunno guys, the answer might be a 216-digit number.
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14 years ago
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i just hate the idea of any rational number being so important

try the transcendentals
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14 years ago
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Martin
For me it represents that seeking deeper meaning behind everything is silly. And there are often either no answers or just silly answers.
Not sure if this is what Douglas Adams intended, but I always more or less assumed so ...

It's also encrypted in 7 bit ascii, the most common encryption technology used, in order to protect my tattoo from from unwanted onlookers ;-)

.... I'm not sure if I'll get any tattoos ... I find it funny and it has meaning for me not, but I'm not sure if it still has in 10, 20, 30, or 40 years ... It might find it just silly then ... :-/
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Martin
Oh, that looks really painful :(
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M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
i was cruising to work on the bike trail i usually take most of the way there... and I was under this like tunnel thing and not sure what happened, either I goofed or my chain came off, and I went a little wobbly. I thought I was gonna slam into some vertical metal bar fencing that i was right up next to... but i managed to come away from it... then I saw a pedestrian so I tried to straighten out... and that's when I slammed my hand / handle bars into the fencing flipping me and the bike sideways and sending my head first skidding to a halt in front of a fairly surprised but all together amiable mexican fellow.

I got up... found my chain completely off. Fixed that and rode on to work. Got to office and went to clean grease off my hand thinking... wow... not broken fingers... amazing. I am super lucky.

Then I took my gloves off and there was some blood and a lot of skin falling off as I washed my hands.

I went looking for a medical office on the base, and instead found a cafeteria worker whose pants were incredibly well stocked with band aids. I find that to be very disturbing, as I eat there regularly.

Anyways... it's been a fun morning.
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> i just hate the idea of any rational number being so important

whether or not you're joking, this is the most hipster thing i've ever seen on the internet
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f'real?
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man, i loved irrational numbers way before they were cool
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what the fuck are you talking about?

irrational numbers aren't "cool." rational numbers are "cool" (e.g., 42, a 216-digit number).

i personally think that transcendental numbers are important and hold universal truths. i see minimal importance in arbitrary rational numbers. i hate the idea of them being important.

now tell me what is hipster about me liking something else with a valid reason for doing so.
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holy shit: you're serious about this.
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M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
lucas what about e dawg. e is the fuckin mack daddy of numerical values. best recognize.

i is pretty dope too. but he's pretty played out.

But that being said... IMHO everything should be base 64. Measurement systems, bytes, fucking portions at dennys. Divides every which way... perfect square... and thus a 2^n value. It's fucking baller is what it is.

Metric is fucking stupid. I mean 10 is divisible by what? 2? 5? Yeah that's fucking useful. You can halve it. Way to go europe... driving on the left side of the street again. Now we were at least on the right track sticking with base 12... divisibile by 4, 2, 3 fuck yeah 12. Way to be fucking useful. Problem is we didn't go straight on to 64... we were so fucking close too. I mean with bytes we went to 8. If we had just fucking gone on to base64 at the beginning. Fuck we're stupid little monkey boys.

Gargh Numbers!!!! STILL JUST A THEORY!
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14 years ago
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damn.
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I was more surprised the word "extreme" didn't pop up once.

Phi is where it's at, though. Just saying...
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> I mean 10 is divisible by what? 2? 5? Yeah that's fucking useful. You can halve it. Way to go europe

At least the metric system is a system, whereas your imperial "system" is just a collection of arbitrary numbers someone once thought up.

I wonder if base 10 isn't somehow programmed in our brains. We have 10 fingers, and so many forms of life ...
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Listen if I can't get a hogs head of ale within the fortnight imma show you what the imperial system is really capable of rebel scum.
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> holy shit: you're serious about this.

well yeah, because i thought you were. that's why i asked "f'real?"


> lucas what about e dawg. e is the fuckin mack daddy of numerical values. best recognize.

indeed, e is a transcendental. i like e pretty well. phi is cool too.


> i is pretty dope too. but he's pretty played out.

i isn't much of a number. :p


> Way to go europe... driving on the left side of the street again.

haha


> At least the metric system is a system, whereas your imperial "system" is just a collection of arbitrary numbers someone once thought up.

come on, every unit system is arbitrary, including metric.
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> well yeah, because i thought you were

almost never

> a hogs head of ale within the fortnight

there's at least a baker's dozen hogs weighing more than 2 stone within a yard of a stone's throw of here
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M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
I'd like a gross lot of hogs heads, or possibly a hogs head of the lot. A lot of hogs heads would be gross indeed. Certainly worth a stoning.
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> > At least the metric system is a system, whereas your imperial "system" is just a collection of
> > arbitrary numbers someone once thought up.
>
> come on, every unit system is arbitrary, including metric.

Ok, what I meant was that's it's a consistent / regular system.
meter = standard, kilometer = meter * 1000, centimeter = meter / 100
gram = standard, kilogram = gram * 1000, centigram = gram / 100
etc, etc.

It's more pragmatic IMHO

(How did we get from tattoo's to measurement systems btw? This thread got a bit sidetracked).
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14 years ago
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yeah, the base-10 unit prefixes are decent.
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14 years ago
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M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
it's only more pragmatic in a base 10 system. but base 10 itself is dumb.

most of the world is now built off of boolean systems... or some representation of a 2^n conversion.

base 10 is incompatible.

It's just... stupid.
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14 years ago
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it's not incompatible, it just requires conversion.
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M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
stupid conversion.
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Orwell:

Another thing I am against in advance — for it is bound to be suggested sooner or later — is the complete scrapping of our present system of weights and measures.

Obviously you have got to have the metric system for certain purposes. For scientific work it has long been in use, and it is also needed for tools and machinery, especially if you want to export them. But there is a strong case for keeping on the old measurements for use in everyday life. One reason is that the metric system does not possess, or has not succeeded in establishing, a large number of units that can be visualized. There is, for instance, effectively no unit between the metre, which is more than a yard, and the centimetre, which is less than half an inch. In English you can describe someone as being five feet three inches high, or five feet nine inches, or six feet one inch, and your bearer will know fairly accurately what you mean. But I have never heard a Frenchman say, ‘He is a hundred and forty-two centimetres high’; it would not convey any visual image. So also with the various other measurements. Rods and acres, pints, quarts and gallons, pounds, stones and hundredweights, are all of them units with which we are intimately familiar, and we should be slightly poorer without them. Actually, in countries where the metric system is in force a few of the old measurements tend to linger on for everyday purposes, although officially discouraged.

There is also the literary consideration, which cannot be left quite out of account. The names of the units in the old system are short homely words which lend themselves to vigorous speech. Putting a quart into a pint pot is a good image, which could hardly be expressed in the metric system. Also, the literature of the past deals only in the old measurements, and many passages would become an irritation if one had to do a sum in arithmetic when one read them, as one does with those tiresome verses in a Russian novel.

The emmet’s inch and eagle’s mile
Make lame philosophy to smile:

fancy having to turn that into millimetres!



I don't know if he's right, but it's about the most compelling case I've heard.
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M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
he's british... half that is pompous arrogance.
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I'd say more like a charming 30%.
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> There is, for instance, effectively no unit between the metre, which is more than a yard, and the
> centimetre, which is less than half an inch.

Well, there is a decimeter, which is 10cm. There's also the decameter, which is 10m.
The fact it's almost never used says enough on "difficult" it is to "imagine" something like 56cm or 5.76m.

When measuring volume, deciliter and decaliter is used much more often btw ...

As for the historical argument: I grew up with the metric system, and have no problem approximating the scale of imperial measurements. I don't know how many inch are in a feet, but I do know an inch is *about* 2.5 cm, and a feet *about* 30cm and that a person is *about* 5" 5' - 6" 5'

Also, the metric system is much less ambiguous. Especially in the past there have been a zillion different interpretations of the imperial system, and there are still some differences between regions.

As for base-10 vs base-anythingelse, as I mentioned before I would have thought that base-10 is somehow "hardwired" in our brains because of our 10 fingers, but I may have been wrong:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Base_10#Alternative_bases

Historically there have been a number of non base-10 systems ... More research required but it seems that any base will do as far as our brains are concerned.

So yeah, let's switch. And let's switch to postfix notation too while we're at it.
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nothing is wrong - what are you scared of?
nnnneeeerrrddsssss!
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14 years ago
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Hey! That's no way to treat somehow to bought a photograph from you!
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2 years ago:
>I'm thinking of this design for my first tattoo.
>Opinions?


Hey, I finally got that tattoo today! For free. :D

I love having a tattoo artist for a friend.
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13 years ago
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where is it?
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13 years ago
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Right shoulder. About 4.5" wide.
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I am not a robot...
are you happy with it?
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I am.
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11 years ago
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To hijack phi_'s thread:

This will be done on the first of feb.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons … vanity.jpg
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11 years ago
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will the colors be inverted?
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11 years ago
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Sorry lucas, I forgot to reply :o

Inverting it would be strange I think ... Anyhow, here's a pic:

http://arp242.net/tmp/13020012.jpg

(Sorry for the poor quality, I don't have a super-duper camera)
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That turned out really, really well cs! Congrats!
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M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
that's creepy yo.
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11 years ago
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dayum!
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10 years ago
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http://www.reddit.com/r/badtattoos
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Yessss
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that page makes me unhappy