are you capable of it?
are you capable of it?
kinda.. they have to reach a certain point of the ideal, first, though. then they are forgiven.
that kind of the definition of conditional love
i'm pretty sure every person in the history of time that conditionally loved someone looked past a fault or two if they were up to their standards of what they expected out of a human
NEXT!
i'm pretty sure every person in the history of time that conditionally loved someone looked past a fault or two if they were up to their standards of what they expected out of a human
NEXT!
Already have done it. Fuck conditional love.
haha yes! that is the attitude i am looking for. and what is your dayly experience of life like? i imagine its pretty fucking sweet
I'm unconvinced that "conditional" love is even possible. I have not found it to be, personally, but I'm open to discussion! If it is, I will need to seriously re-think my working definition of the word.
Type of love is certainly conditional...
Type of love is certainly conditional...
Well the last girlfriend that broke up with me I told her you can stop loving me, but you can't make me stop loving you. Felt pretty damn good to know im not bringing hate into the world.
Get a dog ... unconditional love right there.
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unconditional and dominating affection, something else altogether.
i'm with ET, only type of love is unconditional. else it is just a measure of how much you are getting out of that person.
i'm with ET, only type of love is unconditional. else it is just a measure of how much you are getting out of that person.
Unconditional love would mean you would love everyone and everything, since there are no conditions (if (true()) love();)
yeah. which is why i dislike unconditional love.
Carpet>>Unconditional love would mean you would love everyone and everything, since there are no conditions (if (true()) love();)
Yes and no.
Yes if you interpret the term exactly literally then basically you love everybody and everything, since isolating your love to individuals and actions is a sort of conditionality. However, without bastardizing the term too much we can talk about unconditional love within the perspective of being focused on an individual.
Yes and no.
Yes if you interpret the term exactly literally then basically you love everybody and everything, since isolating your love to individuals and actions is a sort of conditionality. However, without bastardizing the term too much we can talk about unconditional love within the perspective of being focused on an individual.
like still loving a person even if they decide to murder your cat.
news: dead cat found
headline: kittycide or murdercat?!
story: jealous girlfriend vies for boyfriend's love for boots his cat, yet she didn't know that he loves her unconditionally. boots found hours later in a nearby dumpster. girlfriend admits to murdercat, discounting all apparent evidence for kittycide -- boyfriend marries girlfriend!
news: dead cat found
headline: kittycide or murdercat?!
story: jealous girlfriend vies for boyfriend's love for boots his cat, yet she didn't know that he loves her unconditionally. boots found hours later in a nearby dumpster. girlfriend admits to murdercat, discounting all apparent evidence for kittycide -- boyfriend marries girlfriend!
Danny, you make me happy
i'm a big fan of έρως, one of the conditional loves.
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Carpet>>Unconditional love would mean you would love everyone and everything, since there are no conditions (if (true()) love();)
Yes and no.
Yes if you interpret the term exactly literally then basically you love everybody and everything, since isolating your love to individuals and actions is a sort of conditionality. However, without bastardizing the term too much we can talk about unconditional love within the perspective of being focused on an individual.
Ok, so if I understand you correct you love an individual (i.e. your girlfriend) ``unconditionally''?
Even if she starts sleeping with your brother and/or every other man in sight?
Even if she's becomes a junkie who does every kind of drug she can get her hands on?
Even if she's becomes a slob that never cleans up?
etc.
etc.
Also, why do you love this particular person ``unconditionally'' and not another person? This, by means there is some condition that makes you start loving ...
cs>> Ok, so if I understand you correct you love an individual (i.e. your girlfriend) ``unconditionally''?
Even if she starts sleeping with your brother and/or every other man in sight?
Even if she's becomes a junkie who does every kind of drug she can get her hands on?
Even if she's becomes a slob that never cleans up?
etc.
etc.
Yes. That would be my definition and what I want to give and would want to experience. Just because I do not stop loving her does not mean that I cannot dislike her, hate her, or want to be as far away from her as possible (sorry for the double negatives). Yet I still love her. Likewise I would not have stopped loving my brother in the case of the first example.
For example, I love myself unconditionally. Though my heart may betray me, my body fail me, and my mind insufficient to sort through the chaos of my small world, I will not stop loving myself. Same with my family and a few of my friends.
Oh and you say something about a condition of starting to love someone this way. Yes the condition is just the choice. I choose to love.
So I guess you might think of it as a bit more conditional than that. I love someone based on my perception of that person. I love that person not for what that person does but for who I perceive that person to be. If later I discover that person to be not to be the person I loved (in this case: dishonest, backstabbing, and manipulative) then just as my image of that person separates from the reality so too could my love. This has never happened before, but I can imagine it happening. Pretty weak really, but I still see it as unconditional love.
What is this "love" you speak of? Personally, I am not sure I could explain it eloquently with words, at least not with any confidence.
I once heard it defined as, "A short term hormonal imbalance." The scientist/geek inside me found this amusing; however, this definition does not sit well with my sole [sic] or spiritual being.
As for unconditional "love" and whether I am capable of it, sure, why not, I will try anything once ;)
I once heard it defined as, "A short term hormonal imbalance." The scientist/geek inside me found this amusing; however, this definition does not sit well with my sole [sic] or spiritual being.
As for unconditional "love" and whether I am capable of it, sure, why not, I will try anything once ;)
ugh, this thread is like the 2g1c mental masturbation equivalent, 1g8b∞c.
hey corenomical, was sole a typo, or is it really spelled that way in England?
hey corenomical, was sole a typo, or is it really spelled that way in England?
dannyp, it is spelled that way in my noggin, I am not sure I can talk/type/spell for the rest of this 'ere country. Having said that, if I had typed, "soul" it may have come across as being rather pretentious. Saved?!
corenomical -- heh, you smell cheese too?
corenomical -- heh, you smell cheese too?
i'm not quite sure how it's pretentious -- could ya explain?
also, am i sniffing glue or are you talking to yourself there at the end?
also, am i sniffing glue or are you talking to yourself there at the end?
Pretentious, as in mental masturbation. Work it out.
corenominal -> corenomical. I see what you did there, humorous indeed :)
corenominal -> corenomical. I see what you did there, humorous indeed :)
^^^ grinnin'
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I like the revisions
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