You guys appear to be the experts, I'm planning on giving this OS a try on my laptop to replace the preinstallated lamity which is Windows Vista.
Basically the main things I wanna do is:
-Browse internet
-Play Music, Pictures etc
-Develop websites in LAMP package style
-Wireless Internet
Possibly
-MSN Messenger Support
So I would like to know what it's like in terms of performance and all, will it support PHP/MySQL/Apache or not?
The iso appears to be low filesize and it looks the best out of the BSD's I've checked out. Am I right?
Also I'm only gonna use it as a tempory solution.
Basically the main things I wanna do is:
-Browse internet
-Play Music, Pictures etc
-Develop websites in LAMP package style
-Wireless Internet
Possibly
-MSN Messenger Support
So I would like to know what it's like in terms of performance and all, will it support PHP/MySQL/Apache or not?
The iso appears to be low filesize and it looks the best out of the BSD's I've checked out. Am I right?
Also I'm only gonna use it as a tempory solution.
> -Browse internet
With Flash?
> [W]ill it support PHP/MySQL/Apache or not?
It will support PHP/MySQL/Apache.
> [I]t looks the best out of the BSD's I've checked out. Am I right?
Which have you checked out?
With Flash?
> [W]ill it support PHP/MySQL/Apache or not?
It will support PHP/MySQL/Apache.
> [I]t looks the best out of the BSD's I've checked out. Am I right?
Which have you checked out?
With flash, yeah
Well, good luck with that.
NetBSD is out of the equation :P
can't you use flash with linux emulation enabled in the kernel?
I would say go with Linux... you'll have access to the same software and more stuff will work out of the box. Unless you enjoy tinkering with operating systems, it seems to be the easiest option.
Alright
Due to my past experience with Ubuntu (I don't know what any of you would say) I hate it, so that is out of the question. I was reccomended by a guy called saulgoode to use Vector Linux, any good?
Due to my past experience with Ubuntu (I don't know what any of you would say) I hate it, so that is out of the question. I was reccomended by a guy called saulgoode to use Vector Linux, any good?
I've been using Ubuntu here... I don't know Vector but I hear good things about Arch Linux all the time.
then again I was using Ubuntu 7.10 on some hellishly old PC so yeah
nah, ubuntu is indeed a dirty hooker
It's all the same to me. Ubuntu has the largest number of packages of them all so I use it.
fair enough
I'm going to order Ubuntu Server Edition and the normal edition for the lulz, may install it but when I last installed it it lacked program compatability.
Also I use Notepad++
Also I use Notepad++
> -Wireless Internet
Will you need vpn? It appears to be hard to set up on *nix atm.
Will you need vpn? It appears to be hard to set up on *nix atm.
don't worry i'm securing myself a copy of Windows 7 from my freind, purely because of compatability reasons and because I know how to use it, otherwise Windows XP will do if I can get it to work on my laptop.
openbsd is the best of them (if you havent used that). flash support has always worked well for me.
coming from an ex-"only NetBSD guy" too
coming from an ex-"only NetBSD guy" too
Maple, I used to be Net-only as well. What made you switch? Also, I'm gonna try out that flash + firefox howto that you (I believe) posted a while back ...
FreeBSD > *BSD since BSDi died.
I used to have a weird obsession with NetBSD. Was just my favorite for plenty of reasons. Then over time hardware wasn't being supported on some machines. Got tired of compiling all my apps and im sure some other stuff. OpenBSD was moving at a much faster pace, while staying clean and small. FreeBSD just annoys me and seems really unorganized so I went OpenBSD route and never looked back. A frew of the OpenBSD devs can be assholes but they are smart assholes. I also think their strict stance on everything is why its still so good. They just dont like bullshit basically.
"FreeBSD < *BSD since BSDi died."
FTFY
FTFY
man, maple knows what's up.
How's OpenBSD SMP support these days? It was pretty weak in benchmarks some years ago.
>Also I use Notepad++
i use this as well and i'm curious to see what you come up with for replacements. if you find something good be sure to post.
i use this as well and i'm curious to see what you come up with for replacements. if you find something good be sure to post.
Vim.
Or Emacs.
Or Emacs.
NetBSD is weird and documented poorly.
OpenBSD is slow but documented extremely well.
FreeBSD is messy and documented OK in the handbook if you are a n00b.
there are going to be downsides to all of them; you kind of just have to pick one, go for it, and see how much trouble it's going to give you on your hardware. personally, OpenBSD has given me the least trouble on any hardware out of all of the BSDs. then again, it's the slowest and has the smallest selection of third-party software. a trade I'm willing to make, but for you I don't know.
OpenBSD is slow but documented extremely well.
FreeBSD is messy and documented OK in the handbook if you are a n00b.
there are going to be downsides to all of them; you kind of just have to pick one, go for it, and see how much trouble it's going to give you on your hardware. personally, OpenBSD has given me the least trouble on any hardware out of all of the BSDs. then again, it's the slowest and has the smallest selection of third-party software. a trade I'm willing to make, but for you I don't know.
> OpenBSD has given me the least trouble on any hardware out of all of the BSDs.
This has been my experience, too.
> the smallest selection of third-party software.
But really good first-party software. PF and OpenSSH for example, as well as countless minor tools.
This has been my experience, too.
> the smallest selection of third-party software.
But really good first-party software. PF and OpenSSH for example, as well as countless minor tools.
oh yeah, totally. when OpenBSD implements something, they do it right. binary package updating works awesome (pkg_add -u), pf is obviously amazing, WPA support is very straightforward (not to mention the great documentation).
one thing I didn't mention, but OpenBSD also generally has the best wifi support. so if you know what your wireless chipset is, do an apropos search of the man pages of all the distros and see if it's supported.
one thing I didn't mention, but OpenBSD also generally has the best wifi support. so if you know what your wireless chipset is, do an apropos search of the man pages of all the distros and see if it's supported.
I've been told by possibly the smartest man on earth (saulgoode) that Vector Linux is a good distro to check out, so I'm going to give it a little test on my laptop.
that's quite the glowing review for a member of the ubuntu forum. :)
hahaha