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15 years ago
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Ok, You guys never decided on this and I did not want JUST a help forum. I want to make sure that people flex those math muscles. Strictly speaking, this is going to be a thread where I want people to post random math problems they are having trouble with or just want to warm up the day. I searched and it appears this problem was never solved:

2sin²x - 6sinxcosx + 6cos²x=1

x is in [0°, 360°]

I have no idea how to solve this one. Poor Bluet. Let's help him out.
lucas's avatar
15 years ago
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2 sin²(x) - 6 sin(x)cos(x) + 6 cos²(x)
= 2 sin²(x) - 3 sin(2 x) + 6 cos²(x) [double-angle formula]
= 2 sin²(x) - 3 sin(2 x) + 2 cos²(x) + 4 cos²(x)
= 4 cos²(x) - 3 sin(2 x) + 2 [pythagorean identity]
= 4 [1/2 + cos(2 x)/2] - 3 sin(2 x) + 2 [power-reduction formula]
= 2 cos(2 x) - 3 sin(2 x) + 4
= sqrt(13) sin(2x + π - arcsin(2/sqrt(13))) + 4

=> sqrt(13) sin(2x + π - arcsin(2/sqrt(13))) + 4 = 1.
=> sin(2x + π - arcsin(2/sqrt(13))) + 4 = -3/sqrt(13).
=> 2x + π - arcsin(2/sqrt(13)) = arcsin(-3/sqrt(13)).
=> 2x = arcsin(-3/sqrt(13)) - π + arcsin(2/sqrt(13)).
=> x = arcsin(-3/sqrt(13))/2 - π/2 + arcsin(2/sqrt(13))/2.

simplify? *slits wrists*
DaGr8Gatzby's avatar
15 years ago
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Here is an easy one that was on my practice test:

What does this evaluate to?

sin²x + cos²x(cot²x)

Sorry for the trig. Of course, I am taking precal now so most of these WILL be skewed.
DaGr8Gatzby's avatar
15 years ago
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Aw no takers?
asemisldkfj's avatar
15 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
put up some calc!
Chiken's avatar
15 years ago
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Chiken
Don't Let Your Walls Down
I'll have some calc to put up pretty quick. who wants some inverse trig derivatives?
DaGr8Gatzby's avatar
15 years ago
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DaGr8Gatzby
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Sure :)
bluet's avatar
15 years ago
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bluet
More trig:

D[1/(sinx{5+4cos²x})]
Chiken's avatar
15 years ago
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Chiken
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-(sinx{5+4cos^2x})^-2*cosx{5+4cos^2x}*8cosx*-sinx?
bluet's avatar
15 years ago
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Correct! Can you simplify even more?
Chiken's avatar
15 years ago
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Chiken
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-(sinx{5+4cos^2x})^-2*8cos^2x{5+4cos^2x}*-sinx

see, this is what fucks me on the calc tests, simplifying rapes me.
DaGr8Gatzby's avatar
15 years ago
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I think TTF needs a digital whiteboard app.
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15 years ago
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nny
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heh integrated latex =P
Chiken's avatar
15 years ago
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alright, this was on my last test that just completely f'd me up

using the formula (1+x)^k roughly = 1+kx

solve

cube root((1-(1/(2+x)))^2)

if more explanation is needed i can most definitely try to provide some :p
lucas's avatar
15 years ago
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solve what?

cube root((1-(1/(2+x)))^2) = 0 ?

we need a complete proposition
Chiken's avatar
15 years ago
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Chiken
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your finding the linearization of that using the approximation (1+x)^k≈1+kx and yes, your assuming x is near 0

sorry i wasn't more exact, i was still quite pissed about that calc test.
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15 years ago
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Chiken
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well, i guess i had no reason to worry as my answer was right! if anyone's curious i could post the answer
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15 years ago
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i'd be interested to see your answer, since i still don't quite know what the question was
Chiken's avatar
15 years ago
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Chiken
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the answer was 1+(2/3)(-(1/(2+x)))

really, all your looking for is the tangent line. normally you would be using the equation

L(a)=f(a)+f'(a)(x-a)

though in this case since your assuming a=0 you can use the formula (1+x)^k≈1+kx

i guess it would have been easier to see if the equation were written like this:

(1-(1/(2+x))^(2/3)
Fsmart's avatar
15 years ago
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Fsmart
but the ambiguity remains. can you solve (1-(1/(2+x))^(2/3) without knowing what it is supposed to equal?
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15 years ago
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Fsmart
'simplification' is boring and meaningless. proofs are everything:
A is a random variable
B is a random variable
a is a scalar.
b is a scalar.
E is the expected value function.
Cov is the covariance function. for a variable A and B: Cov(A,B) = E([A-E(A)][B-E(B)])
Var is the variance function and is defined Var(A)=Cov(A,A).

1. show that E(aA+bB)=aE(A)+bE(B)

2. show that the Var(aA+bB)=a^2 Var(A)+b^2 Var(B)+ ab 2Cov(A,B)

3. if that was easy. when is the var(aA) = var(aA+bB)? there should be two answers to this question.
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no you can't. if it is not specified what x equals you can't linearize it. but on the test he was just implying that x=0 since he stated we had to use (1+x)^k≈1+kx, as that can only be used when x=0.

if x is anything but 0 you must use L(a)=f(a)+f'(a)(x-a).
Fsmart's avatar
15 years ago
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Fsmart
right, that is a first order Taylor series approximation.
Chiken's avatar
14 years ago
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Chiken
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for some reason, this probability statement is confusing the shit out of me.

the probability that a specific user is transmitting is .1 (10 percent). If there are 35 users, the probability that 11 or more are transmitting simultaneously is .0004.

I don't have to do any problems based on it, but I just can't figure out how they arrived at the number.
bluet's avatar
14 years ago
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bluet
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binomial_distribution
Chiken's avatar
14 years ago
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Chiken
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oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
DaGr8Gatzby's avatar
13 years ago
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DaGr8Gatzby
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Anyone want to see me do a Gram-Schmidt problem?
lucas's avatar
13 years ago
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lucas
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um ok
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13 years ago
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phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
Yeah, sure, why not?