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15 years ago
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i guess this thread is mostly intended for bsdlite and myself.

i just submitted the electronic apps for:
u cal at los angeles
u cal at santa barbara

both apps only asked for one set of gre scores, which works well for me. ucla only asks for your gpa for the last sixty units from each institution (they don't ask for a cumulative gpa), which is nice.
dannyp's avatar
15 years ago
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just an fyi if money is a concern, uc tuition fees increased. revised, i remembered wrong.

see: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/ … 1AND7E.DTL
lucas's avatar
15 years ago
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yeah, i heard about that on npr. i won't be going anywhere without full funding, so it's not an issue.
bsdlite's avatar
15 years ago
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i'm going to have to revise my list of schools a bit. the gre testing center is full until the 15th of december, meaning that i'd have to apply to most of the uc schools with my first-time gre scores which are marginal at best. i feel like sending apps to ucla, usc, usc bus. school, ucsb, etc, might just be a misallocation of the money i could use to apply to other schools with later deadlines :/
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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the app for ucsb is complete:
(1) online app submitted
(2) supplements mailed
(3) gre scores reported
(4) online letters submitted

the app for ucla is incomplete:
(1) online app submitted
(2) letters and supplements unmailed
(3) gre scores reported
i'm waiting on a letter from a professor. i need it postmarked tomorrow. :|

the app for cal is incomplete:
(1) online app unsubmitted
(2) supplements mailed
(3) gre scores reported
(4) online letters submitted
their online app has a problem. i can't select emphases, and the department requires that two are selected. so i've been trying to contact various offices at cal for the past few days (to no avail). luckily it doesn't have to be submitted until dec. 8. i'm getting anxious about this.

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i've only done three schools and i'm already not having fun.
bsdlite's avatar
14 years ago
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i finished my usc app today, but now i'm having reservations about submitting it. i don't really want to have to learn how to knife fight in order to succeed at the ph.d. level.
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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haha

just don't cross the street into compton
bsdlite's avatar
14 years ago
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bsdlite
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usc marshall app submitted :)
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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lucas
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awesome--i got the letter for ucla.

now i'm trying to get a hold of cal.
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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lucas
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i got someone on cal on the phone, and she added the emphases to my application.

all three are fully complete! /o/

prepare for round two.
dannyp's avatar
14 years ago
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dannyp
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glad it's going well :D
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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lucas
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thanks :)

i just started the following apps:
u minnesota
caltech
u wisconsin
u michigan
columbia u
u washington
uc davis
nyu

i'm undecided on applying to these:
mit
yale u
u penn
Étrangère's avatar
14 years ago
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Étrangère
I am not a robot...
nyu quietly added to the end of the list... :P
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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lucas
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they're ordered by due date then by nrc rank.
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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lucas
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i had a shitty lineup in 2006:
Stanford University
University of Minnesota
University of California - Berkeley
University of Rochester
University of California - San Diego
California Institute Technology
University of Wisconsin - Madison
University of Michigan
University of California - Los Angeles
Duke University
New York University
University of Washington
Washington University
University of California - Santa Barbara
Fsmart's avatar
14 years ago
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do you have specific people you want to work with at these institutions or are you just applying based on general rankings and specialization rankings?
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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lucas
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both. i applied to berkeley because of specific faculty members there, the location, the field strengths, and the overall rank.
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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lucas
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i just latexed my cv
nestor's avatar
14 years ago
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nestor
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really, just one page? i thought academic cvs were supposed to go on forever.
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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lucas
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mine is a wicked cv-resume hybrid
dannyp's avatar
14 years ago
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dannyp
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just an update, joe currently has a brick and mortar store open at the block.
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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lucas
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will definitely apply:
uc berkeley
u minnesota

uc los angeles
uc san diego
caltech
u wisconsin
u michigan
u rochester
cornell u
new york u
columbia u
carnegie mellon u
u pittsburgh
brown u
u texas

u washington
uc santa barbara
u colorado
arizona state u
u arizona
($1361 total)


if i want to waste money:
mit
u chicago
stanford u
u pennsylvania
northwestern u
($425 total)
bsdlite's avatar
14 years ago
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bsdlite
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i think, ex post, the "wasted money" list will include a lot more than 5 ;)
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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lucas
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yeah :P

but at least with the others i have a chance of admission
Fsmart's avatar
14 years ago
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Fsmart
'i think, ex post, the "wasted money" list will include a lot more than 5 ;)'
- information has a price. in this case assuming perfect information is a misleading (but common) economic assumption.

nice list. it looks like there is a good chance of you being with in one day's drive of me :)
bsdlite's avatar
14 years ago
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bsdlite
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i guess i'll have to write "ex post" twice next time
Fsmart's avatar
14 years ago
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i guess i just don't understand.

i know you were just making a friendly comment, but i guess i don't think ex post analysis of the price of information is even logical. ex post, information has no value because there is no longer uncertainty. but to apply to many schools is to pay for information. it is like saying, after you purchase lunch, you no longer need to purchase lunch.

were you just being intensely ironic?
Étrangère's avatar
14 years ago
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Étrangère
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Isn't Bozeman already within one day's drive of you, Francis?
Fsmart's avatar
14 years ago
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if you mean a 24 hour drive, yes. but for me I burn out after 10-15 hours, so not really.
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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lucas
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i think 16 hours east from bozeman is somewhere in minnesota
Étrangère's avatar
14 years ago
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Étrangère
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Oh, that's where I guessed he was. I couldn't remember which cold M state it was.. 24 hrs is definitely too long to drive in one day.
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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lucas
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my gre percentiles have risen over the past few years! shit rules

print date: 12/13/06
test date: 12/06
verbal: 590 / 83%ile
quantitative: 790 / 91%ile
writing: 6.0 / 96%ile

print date: 12/02/09
test date: 12/06
verbal: 590 / 84%ile
quantitative: 790 / 92%ile
writing: 6.0 / 98%ile

that 98%ile makes me feel like a badass
Fsmart's avatar
14 years ago
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haha :)
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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lucas
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apps fucked:
u columbia
u penn
u minnesota

terrible feelings
Chiken's avatar
14 years ago
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Chiken
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i didnt think you were applying to u penn
Fsmart's avatar
14 years ago
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Fsmart
missed the deadlines?
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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lucas
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yeah. i had already sent the gre scores to columbia and penn, too, so i wasted $40 there. :(

> i didnt think you were applying to u penn

i decided that i'd go for most places not in the top five, including u penn and northwestern u.

oh well, i'll move on. nyu is due on friday! i'm gonna finish it today, damnit.
Étrangère's avatar
14 years ago
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Étrangère
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> i'm gonna finish it today, damnit.

Did you?
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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lucas
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i'm still working on it. i just improved my cv.
dannyp's avatar
14 years ago
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dannyp
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what order do you have for your technological proficiencies?
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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lucas
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a proprietary metric that incorporates interest of the reader and level of proficiency.
bsdlite's avatar
14 years ago
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P = { y : y = f( interest( #applicants, x ), proficiency(x), x ) }

interest( #applicants ) > 0
d(interest)/d(#applicants) < 0
d^2(interest)/d(#applcants)^2 > 0
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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i did something terrible to my caltech, u wisconsin, and u washington apps. u washington was nice enough to let me fix it. i have yet to hear back from the other two.
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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lucas
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the price of gre score reports rose by $3 today. :( i could have saved $27 by ordering all of the remaining needed ones yesterday, if i had known.
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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me: anyway, all of my apps are officially straightened out! :D
i got all of those shitty statements fixed
Ryan: tits
me: tits indeed

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14 years ago
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i completed all of my applications this morning.

==================================

SCHOOLS TO WHICH I APPLIED

Stanford U
U California, Berkeley
Northwestern U
U Michigan
New York U
U California, Los Angeles
California Institute of Technology
U Wisconsin
U California, San Diego
Cornell U
Brown U
Carnegie Mellon U
U Rochester
U Texas
U Washington
U Pittsburgh
Arizona State U
U Arizona
U California, Santa Barbara
U Colorado



SCHOOLS TO WHICH I REGRETTABLY DID NOT APPLY

U Pennsylvania
U Minnesota
Columbia U



SCHOOLS TO WHICH I INTENTIONALLY DID NOT APPLY

Massachusetts Institute of Technology
U Chicago
Princeton U
Harvard U
Yale U
Duke U
U Maryland
Boston U
Johns Hopkins U
Pennsylvania State U
U Virginia
Washington U
Ohio State U
Boston College
Michigan State U
U Illinois
U California, Davis
U North Carolina
U Iowa
Vanderbilt U
U California, Irvine
Texas A&M U
Purdue U
Indiana U
Georgetown U
U Florida
Rice U
U Southern California
North Carolina State U
Rutgers
Iowa State U
Syracuse U

==================================
dannyp's avatar
14 years ago
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dannyp
dʎuuɐp
awesome.
asemisldkfj's avatar
14 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
booooo @ no mit
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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lucas
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my chance of an mit offer would have been so low (p << 1)
Fsmart's avatar
14 years ago
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whats << ?
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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lucas
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"much smaller than"
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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lucas
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"record number of applications submitted for FA10 admission" -- UCSD Ph.D Econ.

no surprise here.
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14 years ago
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dannyp
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you were expecting records buss'n?
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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lucas
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oui.
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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lucas
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i just got an acceptance letter from the university of california at santa barbara. :)
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14 years ago
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dannyp
dʎuuɐp
awesome!
asemisldkfj's avatar
14 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
congrats!
Fsmart's avatar
14 years ago
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Fsmart
nice!
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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lucas
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i called the ucsb econ grad office today. the guy was very friendly. he told me that letters regarding funding will be sent out next week. woo! :D
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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lucas
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accepted by u pittsburgh, rejected by u rochester.

updates will be posted here henceforth.
Chiken's avatar
14 years ago
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Chiken
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yeeeah, come hang with me at pitt
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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lucas
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rejected by my #1 pick: cal.
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14 years ago
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nny
M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
Sorry to hear that.
asemisldkfj's avatar
14 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
it's ok, I just got rejected by the boston teacher residency. if bc rejects me too, I am probably going to go back for a bs in math.
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14 years ago
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dannyp
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things aren't looking good for larz :( come on 3, 5, 7!
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14 years ago
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Chiken
Don't Let Your Walls Down
good luck getting notified by pitt, they said the same thing to me and never got back to me.
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14 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
nyc would be cool :).
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14 years ago
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nny
M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
i like it anyways.
Chiken's avatar
14 years ago
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Chiken
Don't Let Your Walls Down
ah you fly out to ASU pretty soon. hope you like it, the little main street on their campus is pretty sweet.
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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lucas
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i'm departing bzn right now for asu!
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14 years ago
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lucas
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i'm departing phx right now for bzn!

the trip was very nice.
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14 years ago
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lucas
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and exhausting.
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14 years ago
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how was it?
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14 years ago
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asu pros:
lots of personal attention, even from ed prescott (nobel laureate)
great for macro
good for micro theory
phoenix weather is usually great
phoenix gets lots of good shows (indie music)

asu cons:
poor in applied micro
poor in econometrics
mediocre reputation in general for econ
phoenix weather in july and august is god-awful
phoenix lacks culture and diversity

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http://static.wingedleopard.net/lucas/share/decisions.html

still no word from u texas.
Chiken's avatar
14 years ago
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Chiken
Don't Let Your Walls Down
come visit u pittsburgh yo!
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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lucas
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they have no money for me.
Chiken's avatar
14 years ago
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Chiken
Don't Let Your Walls Down
ahhh booo those bitches
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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lucas
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i declined offers made by arizona state university and the university of arizona.

check this for freshies
Chiken's avatar
14 years ago
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so which school are you leaning more towards now or are you still waiting for more info on the funding?
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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lucas
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i'll only attend if i get funding. i want u washington badly.
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14 years ago
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lucas
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i just realized how ridiculous this is:

"Although your application was very good, we received 500 applications this year and could only admit about 20%." -- u texas

i replied:

"You admitted 100 of 500 applicants? \n\n Best, \n Lucas"
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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lucas
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i'll apply to these schools this year, unless u washington comes through:

Stanford U
U California, Berkeley
Northwestern U
U Michigan
New York U
U California, Los Angeles
California Institute of Technology
U Wisconsin
U California, San Diego
Cornell U
Brown U
Carnegie Mellon U
U Rochester
U Texas
U Washington
U Pennsylvania
U Minnesota
Columbia U
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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so i got admitted without funding by both u washington (uw) and u california, santa barbara (ucsb).

uw told me that they wouldn't hold it against me if i accepted admission now then later retracted if i get a job or a better offer elsewhere. so i informally accepted admission with uw. they were excited to have me, as they really like my research.

then, unexpectedly, ucsb gave me a good (not great) offer (details). i contacted uw. i told them that ceteris paribus i'd prefer to attend uw instead of ucsb. however, with no funding from uw and a good package from ucsb, i would attend ucsb.

i got a response from uw. they are trying to find funding for me. leverage works wonders. fsmart knows.
Chiken's avatar
14 years ago
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Chiken
Don't Let Your Walls Down
nice man, hope it all works out for ya.
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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lucas
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thanks. we'll see.
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14 years ago
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nestor
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leverage!
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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lucas
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u washington offered me tuition and $4,000. smiles!


lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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me: "I'm very interested in attending UCSB, I just need to try to get a bit more funding from them first."
gary charness: "water from a stone? but they can usually work something out."
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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finality: i'm not going to graduate school this fall.
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14 years ago
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M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
=/ drink a beer, shoot something in animate.
Chiken's avatar
14 years ago
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Don't Let Your Walls Down
whaaaaaaaaaat
lucas's avatar
13 years ago
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time for a new round!

i have applied
u california, santa barbara
u california, los angeles
u california, berkeley

more to come!
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13 years ago
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M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
berkeley is freaking beautiful. seriously. I'll visit you if you go there. place is fucking fun.
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13 years ago
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freaking beautiful fucking fun
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13 years ago
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nny
M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
I didn't say hella. or wicked. Give me some credit.
Étrangère's avatar
13 years ago
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I am not a robot...
I was just enjoying how excitedly you were describing it!
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13 years ago
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i have applied
u california, santa barbara
u california, los angeles
u california, berkeley
stanford university

more to come!
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13 years ago
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complete list updated for 2011
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13 years ago
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i might apply to u zurich too. it might be awesome.
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13 years ago
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zurich is a cool town. but you will be the poorest person there.
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M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
and least armed.
lucas's avatar
13 years ago
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i'm applying to one business school--cmu tepper for their ph.d in economics program.

this is the most strenuous and frustrating application ever.

I HATE IT
nestor's avatar
13 years ago
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nestor
my friend is at cmu in the engineering and public policy program. he likes the school a lot.

tepper is a great business school.
Chiken's avatar
13 years ago
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Chiken
Don't Let Your Walls Down
cmu's campus is pretty sweet. i've gone up there a couple times for concerts.
lucas's avatar
13 years ago
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"Cornell University can send admissions information and other university notices to you via a text capable (SMS) cell phone."

ok, i'm finally done applying!

http://static.wingedleopard.net/lucas/share/decisions.html
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13 years ago
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i also applied to u zurich.

--

here come the decisions!

ucsb: accepted, no word on funding yet.

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list updated, as always.
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13 years ago
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nestor
do you think you have improved your application this year?
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13 years ago
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Martin
> Arizona State U Accepted Tuition waiver, health insurance, and $19,000

That doesn't sound too bad financial-wise.
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13 years ago
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> do you think you have improved your application this year?

very much so.
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13 years ago
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accepted
ucsb

rejected
stanford
ucb
ucla

http://static.wingedleopard.net/lucas/share/decisions.html
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13 years ago
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dʎuuɐp
fuck...
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13 years ago
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M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
awe. stanford has a hella nice campus.
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keep rubbing salt in the wound, nny
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13 years ago
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I am not a robot...
Stanford's campus totally sucks.
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maybe. nny says it's "hella" nice. is "hella" a negation adverb?
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13 years ago
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my advising professor (in whose house i'm currently living) is a visiting fellow at the hoover institution at stanford. i sent him this email:

Stanford just declined admission to me again! Can you knock some heads together for me while you're there? Hopefully the Economics Department isn't too far from the Hoover Institution.

I've also been declined admission by UC Berkeley and UCLA. UCSB has admitted me again.

http://static.wingedleopard.net/lucas/share/decisions.html

Let me know if you make any progress for me at Stanford! :]



i think he took me a bit too seriously.
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13 years ago
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I am not a robot...
It's because you used a smiling emoticon instead of a winking one
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13 years ago
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oh
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13 years ago
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it is not looking good. changes in italics below.

accepted
ucsb (no funding)

rejected
stanford
ucb
caltech
ucla
brown
cmu tepper
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13 years ago
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this year is worse than last!

the list is updated upon arrival of decisions.
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13 years ago
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just like my first comment in this thread, things have been going downhill in california universities because of state budgeting.
http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_17626654

:(
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13 years ago
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three schools haven't sent me a decision yet. they only have 36 hours remaining!

northwestern u
uc san diego
u zurich

getting into a top ten (northwestern) would be insane
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13 years ago
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well that didn't work out as i had hoped. i was rejected everywhere except for ucsb, and they don't have funding for me. so i guess i'll just pay for myself ($25,000 for tuition alone) to attend ucsb.

this is a little ironic because last year i was offered $34,000 of funding to attend ucsb. i turned it down to work a job (which i would hate) and re-apply to get better offers (which i wouldn't receive).
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13 years ago
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I think you'll like it so much down there, though. I really do. :)

<3
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13 years ago
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_school

#8, i hadn't heard this before.
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13 years ago
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^ I graduated from #5 on the 2011 Playboy list.
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13 years ago
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#4?
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13 years ago
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oh fuck yeah, ucsb is a top ten party school
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13 years ago
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oops, i can't read. #4.