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technology » ipad... worse than failure.

nny's avatar
14 years ago
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nny
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When you look at the design of the freescale tablet reference design... you see simple, elegant, beauty. When you look at the specs, you see forward thinking brilliance and a butt load of features... and then when you look at the cost... you see a 299 dollar price point.

Then apple comes along and releases pictures of a fairly ugly looking tablet, in spite of it's sparse design points.

Running on a locked down non multitasking OS. Where application development is best described as a total crapshoot.

And utterly lacking in features that were not only expected, but necessary for the device to compete in a market that's beginning to explode.

I mean, I've had my fair share of bad things to say about apple products in the past, as well as the company in general. But, I'd be staggered if somehow the iPad was not a colossal failure.

I don't see much value in the device, and what little is there is matched and exceeded by competing designs.

But more than anything, the dangerous precedent the app store represents to computing is downright unnerving. I'd not buy it on those grounds alone. And that's all there is too it.

And why the hell is there no GPS in ebooks / tablets? I mean... WTF people?

What is wrong with you?
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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i ❤ demo
well, why the fuck would they release a non-multi-tasking OS with an APP STORE when there are tons of new ANDROID devices with OPEN development and plenty of free apps?

it must be their market power. plenty of people out there will buy things just because they are pretty.
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14 years ago
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nny
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freescales reference design looks better. personally i think the apple infatuation with silver is utterly disgusting, but beyond that what's with the massive border around the screen on all sides?

and why the hell won't anyone put gps into their devices? I don't get it. why are hardware developers so freaking stupid?
Chiken's avatar
14 years ago
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Chiken
Don't Let Your Walls Down
most people dont even care anymore. they just buy it because it's new, it's from apple, and it's shiny.
andyp's avatar
14 years ago
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andyp
nothing is wrong - what are you scared of?
beefy iphone you have there, sir.

that is missing its camera, oops
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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lucas
i ❤ demo
the lcd screen is probably exceptional. it's an ips. i wonder if it's an affs ips. :)
nestor's avatar
14 years ago
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nestor
i shared your view on its usefulness, and then i watched their official promo video. browsing the net on it (not typing or anything) looks amazing.

but yeah, other than that, sucks.
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14 years ago
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It'll probably kill your eyes if you read books on it.

I could see some usefulness for someone who would like to do some work or have net access on the road but doesn't need a full laptop... except it has no multitasking... ugh.
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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lucas
i ❤ demo
it'd be a good computer for on the toilet, when you only have one clean hand
 
14 years ago
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dbrown
asus has a competitor for the ipad: http://hothardware.com/News/Asus-Confirms-ARM … Pad-Slate/
also, msi is releasing a tablet with android: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2010/01/m … or-500.ars
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14 years ago
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http://www.freescale.com/webapp/sps/site/prod … DSMARTBOOK

WAAAAAANT
 
14 years ago
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LLF
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BUMP D:

My friend got the iPad in the mail today. He tried connecting to his internet Wi-Fi connection, but an error came up saying "ERROR: No error found. Canceling action..." And then it crashed. F-F-F-FAIL.
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14 years ago
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DaGr8Gatzby
Drunk by Myself
That FreeScale tablet is ugly.
asemisldkfj's avatar
14 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
I like it.
Carpetsmoker's avatar
14 years ago
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Martin
IMHO the whole "pad" is a rather useless device. What exactly are you going to do with it? It's too big to be portable, too small to be useful as a real workstation. Reading books will wreak havoc on your eyes (Backlight), and browsing the web will be painful w/o a proper keyboard IMO.
What is left?
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14 years ago
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andyp
nothing is wrong - what are you scared of?
>What is left?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAl28d6tbko&am … r_embedded naturally
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14 years ago
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nny
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You could attach a keyboard to it. Maybe on a hinge?
phi_'s avatar
14 years ago
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phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gA16Fq4SAo
Étrangère's avatar
14 years ago
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Étrangère
I am not a robot...
hahah oh god that blending video kills me when it cuts several times to him standing there grinning

but the destruction in both vids makes me hurt.

you could do this!: http://mashable.com/2010/04/05/ipad-car-install/ I think it's pretty neat.
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14 years ago
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Carpetsmoker
Martin
Nah! The blending is much more constructive and useful!
 
14 years ago
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LLF
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iWent to the Apple store today (olol punz), tried out the iPad, and it seems very nice. I've been thinking about getting it for my birthday...
Carpetsmoker's avatar
14 years ago
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Carpetsmoker
Martin
DON'T DO IT! RESIST THE PULL OF THE DARK SIDE!
ozntz's avatar
14 years ago
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ozntz
toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Ya I'm with most of you guys what would you do with it?

They bought a couple trial units where I work and I got to play with one for a little bit. It has a nice screen and weight but it is a little slow. Did spend some time and we got XenDesktop with win 7 working on it :)
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andyp
nothing is wrong - what are you scared of?
used one at the mac repair shop the other day.. was kind of disappointed with the speed. the keyboard is fucking hard to get used to typing on, and a lot of the apps were scaled up to fit the ipad screen and they looked like balls. but you have the option to shrink them down to "normal" size. I thought this was kind of lame. and maybe i was using it wrong, but the screen rotation was more annoying than convenient. browsing the internet was okay, but typing text in the fields was difficult for me.. i made lots of typos because of the keyboard and spent like 5x longer to fix all the errors (mostly because there aren't any arrow keys that I saw). Clicking on the exact part of text that I wanted to edit was the most difficult, but then again i don't have much experience with touch text.

however it has nice weight and pretty screen, so it would be nice to watch movies on or to show a portfolio.
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phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
> however it has nice weight and pretty screen, so it would be nice to watch movies on or to show a portfolio.

So it's only good at being a really expensive digital picture frame?
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14 years ago
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Martin
As long as your movies don't use flash: Yeah.
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14 years ago
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nny
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heh mweb ftl.
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14 years ago
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Étrangère
I am not a robot...
Dude actually...if I had money to throw around, that'd be a badass portfolio.
nestor's avatar
13 years ago
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nestor
nestor
what do the tech gods of ttf say about the best tablet? there must be something more robust than the ipad.
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13 years ago
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Carpetsmoker
Martin
HP Touchpad
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13 years ago
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nestor
nestor
seriously?
Carpetsmoker's avatar
13 years ago
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Carpetsmoker
Martin
If you can get your hands on one for $99, yeah, that's a great price/quality ratio.
nestor's avatar
13 years ago
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nestor
I think I can.

I'm not terribly concerned about the price / quality ratio, just want something I can hack with decent hardware for higher bitrate video, etc.
nestor's avatar
13 years ago
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nestor
anyone else recommend anything? i lost my kindle, so it's a bit more urgent now. kindle fire looks like it has a gimped android OS...
lucas's avatar
13 years ago
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lucas
i ❤ demo
this is relevant but dated

i'd first look at products that aren't primarily used as a vehicle for a storefront, so that they have an incentive to make pdf viewing the best possible experience and internet browsing the best (without trying to gather data and sell you shit)
nestor's avatar
13 years ago
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nestor
good point. i'll see what i can dig up.
nestor's avatar
12 years ago
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nestor
nestor
new asus transformer pad infinity tf700 looks awesome.

may not make sense for me to buy one though, i work way too much to find it useful.
nestor's avatar
12 years ago
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nestor
nestor
i think i'm going to get one.

my new job will have far more reading of PDFs and far less time sitting in the office at a desktop.
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12 years ago
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nestor
nestor
tf700 is lovin ttf in firefox
asemisldkfj's avatar
12 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
one of these days I'm going to cave and buy a tablet for no good reason.
nestor's avatar
12 years ago
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nestor
nestor
that was pretty much my approach.
DaGr8Gatzby's avatar
12 years ago
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DaGr8Gatzby
Drunk by Myself
iPad with retina display is so sweet to me. I don't get why you guys hate on this tablet! I will say this though ... I have yet to find an amazing terminal editor or SSH client. :(
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12 years ago
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nestor
i will say the resolution of the tf700 (1920 x 1200) is pretty decent.

edit: 224 ppi vs. 264 ppi on ipad
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12 years ago
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Drunk by Myself
that is decent. :)
asemisldkfj's avatar
12 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
http://mtxone.com/products/matrixone

I'm close to caving.
asemisldkfj's avatar
12 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
never mind the resolution is the same as my phone.
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12 years ago
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fucking low res displays.
asemisldkfj's avatar
12 years ago
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the law is no protection
I think I'm going to buy a nexus 7. why not? for reading I prefer my phone to my laptop, and a little tablet might be a bit nicer to read the news on.