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Étrangère's avatar
14 years ago
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Who do you guys use? How much do they cost you per year?

godaddy.com tells me $10.69 for first year.
larz tells me joker.com for $12/yr.
Weasley's avatar
14 years ago
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godaddy, it's awful.

don't pay the domains anymore I'm just gonna let 'em expire (don't use them much) but I think they are about $9.99/yr
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14 years ago
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Étrangère
I am not a robot...
Why is godaddy awful?
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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but godaddy doesn't allow you to delete your account or remove your billings information. crooks!


(lucas)

godaddy's website is cluttered (littered), unprofessional, and difficult to use.

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here's a bit of history on domain name registration:

Registry and registrar business

Network Solutions, Inc. (NSI) first operated the domain name registry under a sub-contract with the U.S. Defense Information Systems Agency (DISA) in September 1991. NSI gave out names in .com, .org, .mil, .gov, .edu and .net for free, along with free IP address blocks. This work was performed at the Chantilly offices of GSI, the primary contractor, a corporation formed by Infonet to avoid foreign ownership of U.S. government contracts. The work had previously been performed by incumbent SRI International.

In 1992, NSI was the sole bidder on a grant from the National Science Foundation to further develop the domain name registration service for the Internet. In 1993, Network Solutions, Inc. (NSI) was granted an exclusive contract by the National Science Foundation (NSF) to be the sole Domain name registrar for .com, .net and .org Top Level Domain (TLD) names, a continuation of work NSI had already been doing. NSI also maintained the central database of assigned names called WHOIS. A contract was let to Boeing to operate the .mil registry, and was also performed by NSI under subcontract.

In 1995, the National Science Foundation gave Network Solutions authority to charge for domain name registrations. Network Solutions charged $100 for two years registration. The fee was imposed on all domains and 30% of this revenue went to the NSF to create an "Internet Intellectual Infrastructure Fund." In 1997, a lawsuit was filed charging Network Solutions with antitrust violations with regards to domain names. The 30% of the registration fee that went to the NSF was ruled by a court to be an illegal tax. This led to a reduction in the domain name registration fee to $70.

In the 1990s, Network Solutions implemented a policy of censoring domain names. This came to light when Jeff Gold attempted to register the domain name shitakemushrooms.com but was unable to. Further aggravating the controversy was the fact that while Network Solutions' automated screens blocked the registration of shitakemushrooms.com, the domain name shit.com had been successfully registered. Network Solutions argued that it was within its First Amendment rights to block words it found offensive, even though it was operating pursuant to contract with a Federal agency.

Network Solutions' $100 charge, which many parties believed was excessive, in addition to its monopoly position in the market, was one of the contributing pressures that resulted in the creation of the International Ad Hoc Committee and its failed attempt to take control of the domain name system, and to the US Department of Commerce, NTIA releasing the White Paper and ultimately contracting with ICANN to administer the DNS.

With the formation of ICANN, the domain name industry opened up to partial competition, with NSI retaining its monopoly on .com, .net and .org but having to recognize a separation of registry, which manages the underlying database of domain names, and registrar, which acts as a retail provider of domain names. To achieve this separation, NSI created a "firewall" between the two new divisions of the business, creating separate technical infrastructure, organizations, and facilities. By the end of 1999 the fee for registration had been reduced to a wholesale rate of $6 per year to registered resellers.


(wikipedia)

now you know why i bought wingedleopard.net in 1999. i had been waiting for the network solutions monopoly to dissolve so that i could buy it for a significantly lower price. joker.com was one of the first resellers. i think there was about a dozen resellers at that point. joker.com was cheap, german, and quirky. i made the jump.

network solutions was bought by verisign in 2000. verisign still operates the com gTLD. if you're not buying a com domain from verisign, you're buying it from a reseller.

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wikipedia list of top domain name registrars
icann faq
icann list of accredited registrars
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14 years ago
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In October 1998, following pressure from the growing domain name registration business and other interested parties, NSI's agreement with the United States Department of Commerce was amended. This amendment required the creation of a shared registration system (SRS) that supported multiple registrars. This SRS officially opened on November 30, 1999 under the supervision of ICANN, though there had been several testbed registrars using the system since March 11, 1999. Since then, over 500 registrars have entered the market for domain name registration services.


(wikipedia)

joker.com was one of those testbed registrars.
Weasley's avatar
14 years ago
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Étrangère

Why is godaddy awful?



lucas

godaddy's website is cluttered (littered), unprofessional, and difficult to use.



That's why.
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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godaddy sponsors NASCAR.
Chiken's avatar
14 years ago
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Chiken
Don't Let Your Walls Down
danica!
DaGr8Gatzby's avatar
14 years ago
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name.com.

I registered my business on here. It's really nice. Well I think its nice. Coming from GoDaddy, anything is nice.
Carpetsmoker's avatar
14 years ago
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Martin
Bluehost, $10/year.
Works well enough.
Étrangère's avatar
14 years ago
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Étrangère
I am not a robot...
> godaddy's website is cluttered (littered), unprofessional, and difficult to use.

I think joker.com looks pretty cluttered. Actually godaddy's site looks more professional to me than joker's.

It sounds like everyone just sort of went wherever to register their domain names. And no one has much to say either way about where they got them from, other than the negative godaddy comment.

I guess I'll stop scoping them out and just pick one. Thanks for letting me know about the different options, guys.
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14 years ago
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> I think joker.com looks pretty cluttered.

I agree, it is, at the moment.

> Actually godaddy's site looks more professional to me than joker's.

I strongly disagree.
Étrangère's avatar
14 years ago
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Étrangère
I am not a robot...
Godaddy:
- rounded corners
- appealing, earthy color scheme
- subtle boxes

Joker:
- hard corners
- tacky, unnatural-looking (80s?) color scheme
- noticeable partitioning that doesn't line up in one spot across the screen
DaGr8Gatzby's avatar
14 years ago
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DaGr8Gatzby
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Name.com :)
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14 years ago
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if joker.com had uniform spacing between elements and used consistent sizes of elements it wouldn't be that bad, also possibly a different color scheme.

godaddys site is more pleasing on the eye, in terms of general aesthetics, but theres just way to much going on.
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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rectangular> wow... for being in charge of the internet they sure have a super ugly website :P

bluet> that's often a good sign.

source
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14 years ago
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joker is doing a $9 promotion for the first year. you can always change registrars later.

i just bought 1109babcock.com. :)
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12 years ago
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I've used gandi.net for a couple of domains. free dns and private registration. and they support the eff. and the site is very nice-looking. I can't wait to never visit godaddy.com again.
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12 years ago
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i'm thinking about buying larz.is, but the iceland cctld pricing seems monopolistic, which sucks
asemisldkfj's avatar
11 years ago
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asemisldkfj
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still with gandi! I wrote a shell script to keep my dynamic IP up to date.
asemisldkfj's avatar
11 years ago
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asemisldkfj
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oh damn I already posted about this. please don't ban me.
lucas's avatar
11 years ago
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i'm thinking about renewing larz.is, but the iceland cctld pricing seems monopolistic, which sucks
DaGr8Gatzby's avatar
11 years ago
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Drunk by Myself
i-c-u-p.me

That sounds like a nice domain
 
11 years ago
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frozengal
I got an expiring domain name...Yup one of the best way to obtain that domain name is to contact the respective domain holder for a bargain. The domain holder's contact information can be obtained by having a Whois lookup at http://www.whoisxy.com .
lucas's avatar
11 years ago
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lucas
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impressive.
nestor's avatar
11 years ago
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nestor
nestor
this is a spam bot... right?
nny's avatar
11 years ago
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nny
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i assume so...
Carpetsmoker's avatar
11 years ago
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Martin
They prefer to be called advertising automatons.
asemisldkfj's avatar
11 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
fyi, never use comcast as a domain registrar.
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11 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
also lol