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dannyp's avatar
14 years ago
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dannyp
dʎuuɐp
history:
ipod mini 4gb - gift, replaced once and sold
ipod 4th gen 20 gb - andyp's old one. battery is dying
creative muvo 256 mb - giveaway, works great but is annoying to refill all the time.

now:
i want a 'low tech' type solution for biking and every day use.

i want something mostly small but with decent storage.

some kind of screen to display tracks but not much more.

i prefer it to play flac but it's not necessary.

i've been on the hunt and came across the sansa clip+ with great reviews. but at around $60 for 8 gb (though it is expandable via sdhc) i'm still open to other options.

does anything come to mind as a potential solution?

thanks

<3dp
asemisldkfj's avatar
14 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
hmm. this is an interesting market because there is a good amount of non-apple stuff. I will be watching this thread.
bluet's avatar
14 years ago
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bluet
I was going to suggest the Sanse Clip until I saw you'd already heard of it. I still think it's your best bet.
Carpetsmoker's avatar
14 years ago
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Martin
I am considering replacing my iPod nano 3g with the sansa clip+.

I like that you can put sdhc cards in it. It's also very small (I went to a shop which had them in stock). The pricing is also very good.

Here is a rather nice site btw:
http://www.anythingbutipod.com/
nny's avatar
14 years ago
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nny
M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
I used a sansa for my hand grenade mp3 player. Great little devices.
dannyp's avatar
14 years ago
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dannyp
dʎuuɐp
here are some things i found about it while searching around earlier:

as you can see i was considering the whole fiio e5 amp setup to give a little boost to headphones, but i'm probably not going to go there straight off the bat. i'll separate these so its easier to keep track of what you opened:

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http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/9071/img2153s.jpg
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/945/img2155n.jpg
http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/4667/img2058i.jpg
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/3995/img2053.jpg

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http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/236/img1585z.jpg
http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/4733/img2129.jpg
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/4862/img1565.jpg
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/8984/img1395ga3.jpg

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http://anythingbutipod.com/images/forum/dfkt/ … 21-640.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q187/Cptno … G_3750.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q187/Cptno … MG0044.jpg
http://anythingbutipod.com/images/forum/dfkt/ … 23-800.jpg
http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/picture. … tureid=720

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http://assets.head-fi.org/6/6b/6b0f4b14_clip3.jpg
http://assets.head-fi.org/2/2b/2b9b4e9f_clip2.jpg
http://assets.head-fi.org/3/3c/3cb36ca7_clip1.jpg

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http://assets.head-fi.org/e/e8/e8d73346_Rockb … 20%20MX980 .JPG
http://assets.head-fi.org/3/3c/3c44a4ef_IMG_5249.jpg
http://assets.head-fi.org/0/01/019500e3_IMG_5246.jpg
http://assets.head-fi.org/d/d0/d059c013_IMG_5250.jpg
http://assets.head-fi.org/c/c3/c38236ca_IMG_5253.jpg

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http://assets.head-fi.org/7/7d/7dca7f8d_1-1.jpg
http://assets.head-fi.org/c/c7/c7284ba2_1e.jpg
http://assets.head-fi.org/f/f1/f107c882_1d.jpg

also you might notice that it's rockboxed. yeah, there is clip+ support:

http://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rock … ipplus.pdf
http://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rock … build.html

some threads i dug through:
http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10947
http://www.head-fi.org/forum/list/15
http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/371737/pi … part-xiii/
bsdlite's avatar
14 years ago
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thinks darkness is his ally
my lady has a sansa and she loves it; it's not a "clip". the only issue i have is that directory navigation while listening is a bit counter-intuitive.
 
14 years ago
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arun
keep smiling !
I have a sansa clip. First version. It's good.
andyp's avatar
14 years ago
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andyp
nothing is wrong - what are you scared of?
I have the new ipod shuffle.. I probably would not recommend it mostly because of the dumb proprietary earpods :o
Carpetsmoker's avatar
14 years ago
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Martin
Bought a Sansa clip+ last weekend to replace my failing iPod nano 3G, installed rockbox on it. The device is 20 times better with rockbox IMHO, works superb!
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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well, i'm thinking about getting a sansa clip+. they're dirt cheap (4gb is $42, 8gb is $58), so i may as well just try one out.

how does the audio quality compare to similar devices?

do many of you (besides cs) run rockbox on it?

i'm impressed that the default firmware supports flac! :D
Carpetsmoker's avatar
14 years ago
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Martin
I found the audio quality of the Nano 3g a bit better. I would rate the nano3g a 9. The clip+ a 7.5 (On a scale of 10).
Audio quality of rockbox vs. default firmware doesn't seem to matter.

Doesn't matter that much for me, since I use it mostly on my bike, and I'm dealing with noise from wind, cars, etc. anyway.
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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well, that's disheartening.
dannyp's avatar
13 years ago
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dannyp
dʎuuɐp
I forgot to update. I won one of these on a bidding site for a few dollars. It's only 4gb but I added a 16 gig microsd card. I didn't try rockbox yet!
phi_'s avatar
13 years ago
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phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
Rockbox always worked well on my first-gen iPod Nano. Yay for FLAC support!
lucas's avatar
13 years ago
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lucas
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which did you win, dp?
dannyp's avatar
13 years ago
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dannyp
dʎuuɐp
sansa clip+
lucas's avatar
13 years ago
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lucas
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nice. i wouldn't mind one of those things.
asemisldkfj's avatar
13 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
carpetsmokers comments on the sound quality of the sansa clip have convinced me to not to buy one. I should probably just search harder for my ipod.
dannyp's avatar
13 years ago
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turns out the clip+'s clip isn't very strong, the player fell off my bike's mp3 player mount.

now my clip+ power button is broken. it's perma-depressed. i have to plug in usb to turn it on.
Carpetsmoker's avatar
13 years ago
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Martin
I had the same problem when just turning it off!

It was in warranty, and got a new one.
dannyp's avatar
13 years ago
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dannyp
dʎuuɐp
i'll check my warranty too.

turns out i like riding without headphones a lot of times anyway. and it's not particularly safe with noise cancelling iem's :/

but it won't stop me doing it on paved trails heh.
phi_'s avatar
13 years ago
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phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
dp: I recently found my Zune, so I went for a ride while listening to music. I ended up turning it off after about half an hour. Riding without them was so much nicer.
asemisldkfj's avatar
13 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
listening to music while biking is so much fun.

I really can't figure out what I did with my ipod and it's killing me.
lucas's avatar
13 years ago
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lucas
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the clip+ has great sound quality. read around, and you'll find that it's audiophiles' favorite cheap mp3 player. they're $40, so if it breaks, you can just buy another or get warranty service.

read this

i have the purple. <3
asemisldkfj's avatar
13 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
ok I'm getting one. I haven't had an mp3 player for like a month now.
dannyp's avatar
13 years ago
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dannyp
dʎuuɐp
have yet to try rockbox
asemisldkfj's avatar
13 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
rockbox was great on my ipod mini. I'll probably install it on this too.
bluet's avatar
13 years ago
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bluet
I'm using my N900 for music now. And I do agree, music while biking is awesome!
Carpetsmoker's avatar
13 years ago
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Carpetsmoker
Martin
Most phones have an absolutely awful sound quality.
asemisldkfj's avatar
13 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
the iphone is an exception though! ipods have always had pretty great sound quality too. one thing that I give apple credit for.
Étrangère's avatar
13 years ago
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Étrangère
I am not a robot...
ipod earbuds? because when my foam pads fell off I bought cheapy new earbuds and they were about 10x better-sounding, imo
asemisldkfj's avatar
13 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
not the earbuds. just the players themselves. no one who knows anything uses those earbuds.

got my clip+ today!
Carpetsmoker's avatar
13 years ago
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Martin
iPod earbuds are complete shit.
phi_'s avatar
13 years ago
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phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
I want a Clip+ now ... but I found my Zune the other day! *happy*
asemisldkfj's avatar
13 years ago
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asemisldkfj
the law is no protection
clip+ with rockbox is pretty great.
lucas's avatar
13 years ago
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lucas
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I use that combo too. I'm glad you like it!
phi_'s avatar
13 years ago
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phi_
... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
My former better-half still has my 1st gen iPod Nano with Rockbox on it. Rockbox makes everything better.
Carpetsmoker's avatar
13 years ago
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Martin
I think Rockbox really shows the strength of open-source software written by enthusiastic hobbyists. Where the default is "good enough", rockbox is "the best we can possibly make it".

This is one reason why Linux is such crap at certain points. Most Linux development isn't done by enthusiastic hobbyists anymore.
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13 years ago
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i lost my 4gb purple sansa clip+ that cost me $40 on amazon. i think i either left it on the amtrak train or at dannyp's house.

i just bought a 2gb black sansa clip+ for $30 on amazon for replacement.
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13 years ago
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Martin
Mine had a loose headphone jack, lots of distortions in the sound.
I opened it up (with my leatherman, not very smart) and a tiny connection of the headphone jack to the system board was loose.
I soldered it up again, not sure if I did it right, it seems better at first glance though ... The connection is so tiny weeny tiny it's almost impossible to solder (... for me anyway ...).

I need to close it up but kinda demolished the casing ... I'll probably duct tape it (I'm not cool enough to make it into a hand grenade like nny ;-)).
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13 years ago
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nny
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honestly... inside the grenade i have it wrapped in electrical tape to protect the solder points and avoid grounding onto the grenade itself. So you'd be very similar.
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13 years ago
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Martin
Minus the grenade.
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nny
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Exactly.