footwear i want to buy:
trail-running shoes
summer mountaineering boots (leather, goretex, vibram)
winter mountaineering boots (leather, goretex, vibram)
snowshoes (long for backpacking)
clothing i want to buy:
summer pants (maybe softshell, maybe hardshell)
winter bibs (goretex, keprotec ankle reinforcements)
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i want pants for summer trips that will hold up against wet climates. should i get a softshell or a hardshell?
trail-running shoes
summer mountaineering boots (leather, goretex, vibram)
winter mountaineering boots (leather, goretex, vibram)
snowshoes (long for backpacking)
clothing i want to buy:
summer pants (maybe softshell, maybe hardshell)
winter bibs (goretex, keprotec ankle reinforcements)
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i want pants for summer trips that will hold up against wet climates. should i get a softshell or a hardshell?
pants post
i need a pair of hardshell pants without insulation. i have a couple of "softshell" pants, but the definition is so vague that i'll list a couple pairs that i've had my eye on, too.
hardshell pants: dwr waterproof/breathable material, no insulation, bib or none, sealed seams
* cloudveil zorro (proprietary shit)
* arcteryx beta ar (gtx pro shell 3l)
* arcteryx alpha sl (gtx paclite)
* norrona falketind (gtx pro shell 3l)
* marmot randonee (gtx pro shell 3l)
* mountain hardwear beryllium bib (ftx nylon w/ gtx pro-shell laminate)
* mountain hardwear escape (gtx performance shell)
the zorro doesn't seem to be the most burly pant i've tried on, but it's very light and easy to get on/off. might be better for 3-season than winter adventures. i don't think they could take much of a physical beating before they snagged or tore.
i own a pair of norrona narvik pants (gtx performance shell). i'd prefer my pants have pro-shell 3-layer and then worry about insulation or hedging with a softshell pant instead. they are still within the return period, so i might bag them altogether.
i stumbled across the alpha sl pants today at northern lights and got kind of excited; it's the same material as my beta sl jacket and is extremely lightweight. the pricetag is a bit steep for what seem like relatively flimsy pants, but i guess one can't have it all.
softshell pants: breathable, wind resistant, ideally dwr, insulated
* mountain hardwear sarpa (tufstretch thermal)
* arcteryx gamma mx (polartec powershield)
* outdoor research contour (cordura/lycra blend w/ dwr)
i've been using the contour for most of the summer, and it's held up quite nicely. it's a lightweight material that breathes extremely well and seems to be hydrophilic enough to deter your typical gallatin valley summer rainstorm. the material is also impressively burly. my pair should look far worse than they actually are.
i just ordered the sarpa for snoeshowing/winter adventures and am excited to test it out in colder weather.
i need a pair of hardshell pants without insulation. i have a couple of "softshell" pants, but the definition is so vague that i'll list a couple pairs that i've had my eye on, too.
hardshell pants: dwr waterproof/breathable material, no insulation, bib or none, sealed seams
* cloudveil zorro (proprietary shit)
* arcteryx beta ar (gtx pro shell 3l)
* arcteryx alpha sl (gtx paclite)
* norrona falketind (gtx pro shell 3l)
* marmot randonee (gtx pro shell 3l)
* mountain hardwear beryllium bib (ftx nylon w/ gtx pro-shell laminate)
* mountain hardwear escape (gtx performance shell)
the zorro doesn't seem to be the most burly pant i've tried on, but it's very light and easy to get on/off. might be better for 3-season than winter adventures. i don't think they could take much of a physical beating before they snagged or tore.
i own a pair of norrona narvik pants (gtx performance shell). i'd prefer my pants have pro-shell 3-layer and then worry about insulation or hedging with a softshell pant instead. they are still within the return period, so i might bag them altogether.
i stumbled across the alpha sl pants today at northern lights and got kind of excited; it's the same material as my beta sl jacket and is extremely lightweight. the pricetag is a bit steep for what seem like relatively flimsy pants, but i guess one can't have it all.
softshell pants: breathable, wind resistant, ideally dwr, insulated
* mountain hardwear sarpa (tufstretch thermal)
* arcteryx gamma mx (polartec powershield)
* outdoor research contour (cordura/lycra blend w/ dwr)
i've been using the contour for most of the summer, and it's held up quite nicely. it's a lightweight material that breathes extremely well and seems to be hydrophilic enough to deter your typical gallatin valley summer rainstorm. the material is also impressively burly. my pair should look far worse than they actually are.
i just ordered the sarpa for snoeshowing/winter adventures and am excited to test it out in colder weather.
shoes post
i'm looking for the "trifecta" of footwear: first, a nice, light, trail running shoe that doesn't leave my feet bottoms sore after 10-15 trail miles. second, a burly, mountaineering-worthy pair of gtx boots that are crampon compatible and will do well snowshoeing, ice climbing, etc. third, a pair of light hiking boots that i can use for multi-day backpacking.
trail-running shoes: aggressive tread, shank/rock-hard midsole, no ankle support, breathable
* salomon xt wings
* salomon xa pro 3d gtx
* montrail rockridge
i own 2 pairs of xt wings and i love them. my main complaint is the lack of a sufficiently aggressive tread pattern. i find myself unstable on sharp upslope, which is not a problem for trail running (since i would be walking/powerwalking these slopes anyway), but presents problems on scrambles/summit pushes. the shoes are extremely comfortable and breathable, and still look quite new even after > 50 miles.
i would prefer to wear trail-running shoes in all situations that involve a backpack weighing less than 30 lbs.
hiking shoes: lightweight, some ankle support, full shank, no welt
* vasque mantra
* vasque juxt
* la sportiva wizard
i own vasque's mantra and juxt. the mantras are a very comfortable shoe with a generous toebox. i liked them for short hikes near the beginning of this season, but found that they were an absolutely nightmare on my feet on longer hikes with steep descents. the juxt seem to have a more restrictive toe box, which prevents slippage in the front and results in more comfort on long descents.
i also like the support that the additional, lower lace eyelets seem to have on the ends of my feet.
i would prefer to wear hiking shoes in situations where water won't be a factor (or at least where drying is difficult or impossible) and where extra stability is critical (steep scrambles, final pushes, etc).
mountaineering boots: waterproof, full welt, full ankle support
* la sportiva nepal evo gtx
* scarpa mont blanc gtx
don't know much about this genre. the two above are the ones i'm considering. lucas has (and is interesting in selling) the nepal in what is probably my correct size.
i'm looking for the "trifecta" of footwear: first, a nice, light, trail running shoe that doesn't leave my feet bottoms sore after 10-15 trail miles. second, a burly, mountaineering-worthy pair of gtx boots that are crampon compatible and will do well snowshoeing, ice climbing, etc. third, a pair of light hiking boots that i can use for multi-day backpacking.
trail-running shoes: aggressive tread, shank/rock-hard midsole, no ankle support, breathable
* salomon xt wings
* salomon xa pro 3d gtx
* montrail rockridge
i own 2 pairs of xt wings and i love them. my main complaint is the lack of a sufficiently aggressive tread pattern. i find myself unstable on sharp upslope, which is not a problem for trail running (since i would be walking/powerwalking these slopes anyway), but presents problems on scrambles/summit pushes. the shoes are extremely comfortable and breathable, and still look quite new even after > 50 miles.
i would prefer to wear trail-running shoes in all situations that involve a backpack weighing less than 30 lbs.
hiking shoes: lightweight, some ankle support, full shank, no welt
* vasque mantra
* vasque juxt
* la sportiva wizard
i own vasque's mantra and juxt. the mantras are a very comfortable shoe with a generous toebox. i liked them for short hikes near the beginning of this season, but found that they were an absolutely nightmare on my feet on longer hikes with steep descents. the juxt seem to have a more restrictive toe box, which prevents slippage in the front and results in more comfort on long descents.
i also like the support that the additional, lower lace eyelets seem to have on the ends of my feet.
i would prefer to wear hiking shoes in situations where water won't be a factor (or at least where drying is difficult or impossible) and where extra stability is critical (steep scrambles, final pushes, etc).
mountaineering boots: waterproof, full welt, full ankle support
* la sportiva nepal evo gtx
* scarpa mont blanc gtx
don't know much about this genre. the two above are the ones i'm considering. lucas has (and is interesting in selling) the nepal in what is probably my correct size.
thorough
> i want pants for summer trips that will hold up against wet climates.
arc'teryx alpha sl pants! gore-tex paclite. shit owns hard. go try them on at nltc.
arc'teryx alpha sl pants! gore-tex paclite. shit owns hard. go try them on at nltc.
i thought that you prefer pro3l. not in this case?
i like pro3l, but paclite owns for lightweight, waterproof summer gear... and pack's light! (tm)
I just water proofed my OR Mentor Jacket, I feel like such a grown up taking care of outdoor gear.
> OR Mentor Jacket
did you get this off of steepandcheap recently?
did you get this off of steepandcheap recently?
I've had it since 2007