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nestor's avatar
14 years ago
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considering getting the #308 simulator

http://sunraintime.com/

wishful edit: this is *not* light therapy, this is a dawn simulator, oops
Carpetsmoker's avatar
14 years ago
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Martin
I have a Philips WakeUp Light.
Étrangère's avatar
14 years ago
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Étrangère
I am not a robot...
Is this so you can try to wake up without an alarm or...?
Carpetsmoker's avatar
14 years ago
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Martin
I need to combined powers of a wake up light, an alarm, and something along the lines of a miracle in order to wake up on time ...
nestor's avatar
14 years ago
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this is because i am the most evil person in the morning. and i don't even have to go to work until 9:30am.
Étrangère's avatar
14 years ago
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Étrangère
I am not a robot...
I wonder about those lamps that are supposed to replenish your vitamin D...I wonder how harmful vs. helpful they are. So many people here in Seattle have them...
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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yeah, that's actual light therapy (as opposed to a wake-up aid).
Étrangère's avatar
14 years ago
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Étrangère
I am not a robot...
Right, and the point of the thread before he realized the dawn thing was different.

I just wonder how worthwhile/effective real light therapy is...or if it's in large part the placebo effect.
lucas's avatar
14 years ago
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> Right, and the point of the thread before he realized the dawn thing was different.

right, that's why i said "yeah, that's actual light therapy."

> I just wonder how worthwhile/effective real light therapy is...or if it's in large part the placebo effect.

i wonder that, too. vitamin d has been shown to be negatively correlated with depression. causation, however, has not been determined (to my knowledge).

philips says that light therapy is "clinically proven," but we don't get details on the study (e.g., what was used for the control group).
nestor's avatar
14 years ago
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i take D supplements. i'm seriously considering both appliances
lucas's avatar
13 years ago
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my psychiatrist just recommended a full-spectrum light box. she told me to avoid the blue-spectrum therapy lights, as the full daylight spectrum (except for uv) is the best. she also said that the pathways of treatment go beyond vitamin d.

she lends them to patients to try out, but they're all borrowed at the moment. i'm buying one. now.
phi_'s avatar
13 years ago
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... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
Those sound so nice...
lucas's avatar
13 years ago
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10,000 lux full-spectrum light boxes:

naturebright suntouch plus $93
uplift technologies dl930 $143
verilux happylite deluxe $143
philips energylight $290

i'm going with the philips model because they have a 45-day warranty and because i think price is (at least) minimally correlated with quality. light quality goes beyond amount (lux) and temperature (kelvin). spectral differences are important (like the color rendering index), along with more than i know.

anyway, i think either the verilux or the philips would have been fine.
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13 years ago
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Martin
You gotta love that clearcut compare table. I wish more manufacturers would do that.

Anyway, I have a philips wakeup light ... Works OK, but not super.
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13 years ago
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Martin
That top link ("naturebright suntouch plus ") has some serious bullshit on it and all of it sounds dangerously close to snake oil.
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13 years ago
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Martin
"Negative ions are odorless, tasteless, electron-sized particles found in refreshing environments like on beaches and around waterfalls."

omg, what? haha. high school phyisics fail.
asemisldkfj's avatar
13 years ago
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hahaha
Étrangère's avatar
13 years ago
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Étrangère
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aw, they're found around waterfalls! :-j
nestor's avatar
12 years ago
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[preface: not light therapy, just a wake up light]

ordered myself one of these - http://sunraintime.com/308.htm
cheap but looks like it works and is dependable. results to come!
lucas's avatar
12 years ago
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every time a thread is bumped with an étrangère post near the bottom, i think "whoa, she's back!"

but it's just a bump
nestor's avatar
12 years ago
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i got it in the mail. going to try it out tonight
nestor's avatar
12 years ago
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nestor
it worked okay. the light didn't wake me up directly, but i was much more alert than normal when my alarms went off.

my understanding is that the efficacy can't be determined until a few more weeks of use. i might upgrade the bulb in my bedside lamp as well (ge filter for more bluish light).