I've finished 70 unit hours and I'm ready to graduate and transfer, but under which major(s)?
Business Admin AA remaining reqs:
-Anthropology
-Calculus
-Astronomy + lab
Transfer as Business Admin major to a CSU:
(AA reqs plus these)
-Accounting
-Accounting 2
-Intro to computer operating systems (sigh)
Philosophy AA remaining reqs, + Transfer to UC or CSU as Phil major:
-Philosophy Ancient to Medieval
-Philosophy Medieval to Contemporary
Implications of going to a CSU:
-Cheaper in that I won't have to move and live in student housing. (Tuition differences between the two aren't dramatic.)
-Primarily pragmatic based curriculum
-Graduate with major + minor, or major + major.
-Transfer as a junior in Business or Phil.
-Likely to be done faster than a UC, and into the workforce or going back to school.
UC:
-Expensive living arrangements as I would most likely move.
-Primarily theory based curriculum
-School names more widely familliar
-No Information systems concentration (via business major), only computer science.
-Business major impacted
-Transfer as a junior in Phil, changing majors would be difficult.
-If I can't hack the philosophy, I'm a drop-out :o
CSU's in consideration:
Fullerton CSUF
Pomona Cal Poly Pomona
Long Beach CSULB
UC's:
Berkeley UCB
Santa Barbara UCSB
Santa Cruz UCSC
Riverside UCR
San Diego UCSD
So I'm just going to shoot for everything. I'm taking all the required classes for both AA's and both transfers to CSU's and the phil req's for UC. Doing this may prolong me even more, but I'm debating whether that's a problem.
Alternatively, the quickest way to transfer would be Philosophy to a CSU as the acceptance turnaround is half a year instead of a full year, and less classes are required.
Also:
If I transition to any UC or CSU I will be eligible to get a promotion to student professional worker ~$10.50, or information tech student pro worker ~$14.00 at the county.
Bit more off topic, currently a promotional position opened at the library paying ~$12.95 that I'm applying for.
Business Admin AA remaining reqs:
-Anthropology
-Calculus
-Astronomy + lab
Transfer as Business Admin major to a CSU:
(AA reqs plus these)
-Accounting
-Accounting 2
-Intro to computer operating systems (sigh)
Philosophy AA remaining reqs, + Transfer to UC or CSU as Phil major:
-Philosophy Ancient to Medieval
-Philosophy Medieval to Contemporary
Implications of going to a CSU:
-Cheaper in that I won't have to move and live in student housing. (Tuition differences between the two aren't dramatic.)
-Primarily pragmatic based curriculum
-Graduate with major + minor, or major + major.
-Transfer as a junior in Business or Phil.
-Likely to be done faster than a UC, and into the workforce or going back to school.
UC:
-Expensive living arrangements as I would most likely move.
-Primarily theory based curriculum
-School names more widely familliar
-No Information systems concentration (via business major), only computer science.
-Business major impacted
-Transfer as a junior in Phil, changing majors would be difficult.
-If I can't hack the philosophy, I'm a drop-out :o
CSU's in consideration:
Fullerton CSUF
Pomona Cal Poly Pomona
Long Beach CSULB
UC's:
Berkeley UCB
Santa Barbara UCSB
Santa Cruz UCSC
Riverside UCR
San Diego UCSD
So I'm just going to shoot for everything. I'm taking all the required classes for both AA's and both transfers to CSU's and the phil req's for UC. Doing this may prolong me even more, but I'm debating whether that's a problem.
Alternatively, the quickest way to transfer would be Philosophy to a CSU as the acceptance turnaround is half a year instead of a full year, and less classes are required.
Also:
If I transition to any UC or CSU I will be eligible to get a promotion to student professional worker ~$10.50, or information tech student pro worker ~$14.00 at the county.
Bit more off topic, currently a promotional position opened at the library paying ~$12.95 that I'm applying for.
so you have to get an phil aa to get into a uc school? i'd say shoot for a uc if you think you have a good chance of getting in.
the only real question is: what do you want to do? time and money considerations seem negligible compared to this.
the only real question is: what do you want to do? time and money considerations seem negligible compared to this.
> so you have to get an phil aa to get into a uc school?
Nah, I have to do the major requirements for transfer and they happen to not extend much more than the aa graduation reqs.
> what do you want to do?
What I'm doing with this thread, project! Seems to be one of the things I do naturally. Actually regardless of my choice I know I'll still do this weird introspective thing all over again. I guess it's some sort of fucked up catharsis for me just to write it all down. If this thread were a white room with stripes there would be me piddling in the corner and all over the walls, while punching icons of popularity. Anyway, I'm not sure I do enough extra-curricular activities, which may or may not be an unsaid entry determinance of the UC system.
Nah, I have to do the major requirements for transfer and they happen to not extend much more than the aa graduation reqs.
> what do you want to do?
What I'm doing with this thread, project! Seems to be one of the things I do naturally. Actually regardless of my choice I know I'll still do this weird introspective thing all over again. I guess it's some sort of fucked up catharsis for me just to write it all down. If this thread were a white room with stripes there would be me piddling in the corner and all over the walls, while punching icons of popularity. Anyway, I'm not sure I do enough extra-curricular activities, which may or may not be an unsaid entry determinance of the UC system.
> What I'm doing with this thread, project!
that's not what i meant. i meant: what do you want to study? just learn what you want to learn and let the rest flow.
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i am having a similar dilemma, though. i need to choose between five possibilities:
OPTION 1:
major in philosophy
major in economics
minor in mathematics
OPTION 2:
major in mathematics
minor in economics
OPTION 3:
major in mathematics
minor in economics
minor in philosophy
OPTION 4:
major in mathematics
major in economics
OPTION 5:
major in philosophy
major in mathematics
minor in economics
i have verified each option as possible to complete and graduate may 2007. each has varying time consumption and varying focus on the three subjects. here are my objectives for my choice:
OBJECTIVES:
maximize personal learning enjoyment this year
maximize qualifications for graduate school in economics and mathematics
attempt to study all three areas as much as possible--well-roundedness
you may wonder "why do option 3 when you can do option 5?" less philosophy classes means that i can take more challenging math/econ, improving my odds at getting accepted at a good grad school. likewise, i'd choose option 2 over option 4 to focus more on math.
i think it's amazing that i have so many options this late in the game. but i do. and i only have 2 months to choose what my degree will display...
more detail:
http://www.wingedleopard.net/lucas/other/curriculum.txt
that's not what i meant. i meant: what do you want to study? just learn what you want to learn and let the rest flow.
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i am having a similar dilemma, though. i need to choose between five possibilities:
OPTION 1:
major in philosophy
major in economics
minor in mathematics
OPTION 2:
major in mathematics
minor in economics
OPTION 3:
major in mathematics
minor in economics
minor in philosophy
OPTION 4:
major in mathematics
major in economics
OPTION 5:
major in philosophy
major in mathematics
minor in economics
i have verified each option as possible to complete and graduate may 2007. each has varying time consumption and varying focus on the three subjects. here are my objectives for my choice:
OBJECTIVES:
maximize personal learning enjoyment this year
maximize qualifications for graduate school in economics and mathematics
attempt to study all three areas as much as possible--well-roundedness
you may wonder "why do option 3 when you can do option 5?" less philosophy classes means that i can take more challenging math/econ, improving my odds at getting accepted at a good grad school. likewise, i'd choose option 2 over option 4 to focus more on math.
i think it's amazing that i have so many options this late in the game. but i do. and i only have 2 months to choose what my degree will display...
more detail:
http://www.wingedleopard.net/lucas/other/curriculum.txt
> that's not what i meant. i meant: what do you want to study?
Yeah, I know what ya meant and it's hard to give a straight answer. It's not one single thing or a single occupation that I want to hold. In general the answer is still pretty much the same, I'll probably end up doing a job that takes a lot of planning. Actually where I work there's an advanced planning department that deals with municipal code and architecture, and works with our department for permits and engineering review. I'm not sure if that's the route I want to go but I see the results of the planners' work there, and it's interesting.
> i think it's amazing that i have so many options this late in the game. but i do. and i only have 2 months to choose what my degree will display...
I instantly thought of the lyrics: 'it's a marathon, with every breath life is diminished.'
Your curriculum text file is great!
Objectives for me:
school, travel, work
Yeah, I know what ya meant and it's hard to give a straight answer. It's not one single thing or a single occupation that I want to hold. In general the answer is still pretty much the same, I'll probably end up doing a job that takes a lot of planning. Actually where I work there's an advanced planning department that deals with municipal code and architecture, and works with our department for permits and engineering review. I'm not sure if that's the route I want to go but I see the results of the planners' work there, and it's interesting.
> i think it's amazing that i have so many options this late in the game. but i do. and i only have 2 months to choose what my degree will display...
I instantly thought of the lyrics: 'it's a marathon, with every breath life is diminished.'
Your curriculum text file is great!
Objectives for me:
school, travel, work
dp: I'd say try for a UC school. Not only because they're better known, but because the proferssors there are also probably better known and might be able to really help you get a job or go to grad school after graduation. Of course, the professors at the CSU schools could, too. It's a tough one, but I'd still go with UC.
lr: I'd go with option 4. Philosophy seems to be a personal interest and you should probably focus more on what it seems you want to do professionally.
lr: I'd go with option 4. Philosophy seems to be a personal interest and you should probably focus more on what it seems you want to do professionally.
i dislike being overworked by math classes, and i will probably never pursue mathematics professionally. i am considering graduate school in economics or philosophy. i do not really want to take more than m361 and m362 this coming year. math is enjoyable when it is very difficult (but not so difficult that you cannot improve) and learned sparingly. grad school in math sounds fun, but there's a million more talented mathematicians than me. in the fields of economics and philosophy, however, i really enjoy myself and am much more talented.
i will most likely stick with my current track (option 1).
i will most likely stick with my current track (option 1).
> I instantly thought of the lyrics: 'it's a marathon, with every breath life is diminished.'
google doesn't know this song. who/what is it?
google doesn't know this song. who/what is it?
I still can't remember. I think it was a blueprint freestyle recording maybe. It was hip-hopish though. It may be 'life's a marathon' too. I couldn't find it on google either.
I found it! Blueprint. I.C.U(feat Cannibal Ox) here's my best attempt at dictation: Hey yo consider me weightless. Walkin' corpse spittin' poetry, still workin' the grave shift. (Pump my arms with cpr in gods arms.(?)) Lose my legs and crawl to the finish, this is a marathon, with every breath life is diminished. I've seen your varsity kids as tower boys for the special olympics.
I found it! Blueprint. I.C.U(feat Cannibal Ox) here's my best attempt at dictation: Hey yo consider me weightless. Walkin' corpse spittin' poetry, still workin' the grave shift. (Pump my arms with cpr in gods arms.(?)) Lose my legs and crawl to the finish, this is a marathon, with every breath life is diminished. I've seen your varsity kids as tower boys for the special olympics.
tight
> I'd say try for a UC school. Not only because they're better known, but because the proferssors there are also probably better known and might be able to really help you get a job or go to grad school after graduation. Of course, the professors at the CSU schools could, too. It's a tough one, but I'd still go with UC.
Thanks for the advice. I'm thinking that I shouldn't though, but for different reasons. I can get a bachelors degree from a CSU school for dramatically less money. Since I'm interested in going back for more afterwards at a different school, I'm thinking this method is better for me. Affording a UC for a bachelors is really too costly and the name of a school isn't the most important thing to me.
As for the networking aspect of the professors at UC's I'm sure they have connections, but I don't mind the connections I can get via a less theoretical CSU school.
Work opportunities are arising too. I'm in a dangerous position that may threaten set-backs in my education.
Thanks for the advice. I'm thinking that I shouldn't though, but for different reasons. I can get a bachelors degree from a CSU school for dramatically less money. Since I'm interested in going back for more afterwards at a different school, I'm thinking this method is better for me. Affording a UC for a bachelors is really too costly and the name of a school isn't the most important thing to me.
As for the networking aspect of the professors at UC's I'm sure they have connections, but I don't mind the connections I can get via a less theoretical CSU school.
Work opportunities are arising too. I'm in a dangerous position that may threaten set-backs in my education.
I've been doing some cost sampling. Here are some results.
http://www.finaid.ucsb.edu/Budget.asp?Level=U … ;Year=2006
$21,976 for a Bachelors from UCSB. I must move with this (or any UC) option. I start with no job.
http://www.ess.calpoly.edu/_finaid/NewFinAid/Cost.htm
$17,043 for a Bachelors from CalPoly San Louis. I must move with this option. I start with no job.
http://www.fullerton.edu/explore/csuf/Costofattending.html
$10,990 for a Bachelors from CSUF. Employed already.
http://www.dsa.csupomona.edu/financial_aid/costs.asp
$10,428 for a Bachelors from CalPoly Pomona. Employed already, longer commute than CSUF by half.
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As for the major. I'm sticking with Business Administration concentration in MIS/CIS/Management systems/Information systems equivalent.
Any suggested schools that sound interesting to you in the CSU or UC systems? Take a look at where they are:
http://www.calstate.edu/datastore/campus_map.shtml
http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/campuses/welcome.html
http://www.finaid.ucsb.edu/Budget.asp?Level=U … ;Year=2006
$21,976 for a Bachelors from UCSB. I must move with this (or any UC) option. I start with no job.
http://www.ess.calpoly.edu/_finaid/NewFinAid/Cost.htm
$17,043 for a Bachelors from CalPoly San Louis. I must move with this option. I start with no job.
http://www.fullerton.edu/explore/csuf/Costofattending.html
$10,990 for a Bachelors from CSUF. Employed already.
http://www.dsa.csupomona.edu/financial_aid/costs.asp
$10,428 for a Bachelors from CalPoly Pomona. Employed already, longer commute than CSUF by half.
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As for the major. I'm sticking with Business Administration concentration in MIS/CIS/Management systems/Information systems equivalent.
Any suggested schools that sound interesting to you in the CSU or UC systems? Take a look at where they are:
http://www.calstate.edu/datastore/campus_map.shtml
http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/campuses/welcome.html
So far calpoly san luis obispo is the only campus that's hatin' on hobo-mannin' it.
Section 19: Use of Motor Vehicles for “Living” or “Human Habitation” on Campus ( Back to Top )
19.1 Human Habitation – No person shall use any motor vehicle in any area of the campus for the purpose of human habitation or camping without the express written permission of the University President or designee (Vice President for Administration and Finance). Human Habitation includes one or more of the following activities: sleeping between the hours of 12:00 a.m. and 7:00 a.m., cooking or elimination of body waste.
Section 19: Use of Motor Vehicles for “Living” or “Human Habitation” on Campus ( Back to Top )
19.1 Human Habitation – No person shall use any motor vehicle in any area of the campus for the purpose of human habitation or camping without the express written permission of the University President or designee (Vice President for Administration and Finance). Human Habitation includes one or more of the following activities: sleeping between the hours of 12:00 a.m. and 7:00 a.m., cooking or elimination of body waste.
is that a big deal for you?
not really, I was just kidding.
I am visiting the campus tomorrow though.
I am visiting the campus tomorrow though.
I dropped the math major. Schedualling became a nightmare and I want to finish this year. A minor is good enough till grad school. I mostly have upper-division generals to take, which I think are a waste. History and Philosiphy of Science >> Music in the 20th Century. But guess which I need.
Wow, about 10 hours total on the road and 3 accidents, two up one down.
The campus and surrounding area is so beautiful. I was in http://www.arroyogrande.org/ on accident and its downtown looked like a glorified bzmt beach-setting. I got off there because it said it was Grand ave, and that's the exit I was supposed to take, but it was the wrong city by about 20 minutes. So it was nice and I travelled down grand anyway to find about 10 hotties tempting me for a car wash-I might like this place-. I went some back route, I think 226 to san luis obispo which took me through some residential and farm area, rolling hills, it was mostly pretty green and autumn leaved trees.
I walked around downtown san luis, went to a little local history museum with information about the chinese families that were there (hiding?) and I had wayy too much to drink on the way up so I got out of there quick (no bathroom). The docent was rambling and I tried to be polite.
Found a bathroom at the park across the street and some hoboish young guy was drying his socks and chillin' with a few friends, complimented my theroot42 shirt before I peed. The downtown there was pretty decent, lots of beach related shops. I realize they market UGGs to the demographic there heavily. I heard the ad run probably 15 times on the radio and I saw stores packed with NEW UGGs signs in the windows. http://www.uggaustralia.com/ . I saw quite a few stunners. People were friendly, more people say hello and are willing to talk it up.
Overall it is a kickass campus, but I felt pretty of uncomfortable in such a rich area with so many conservatives and little if any diversity. I went down grand in san luis and saw about 4 houses on a block leading to the business building with taglines in windows on posters that said "Jesus reigns", "Jesus lives!", and stuff to that effect. On the other hand, it was so relaxing in the park I went through, seems like there is a lot of effort for making the parks damn awesome. Parking wasn't horrible, LA is worse. Not very diverse to say the least.
I would go back. This makes me want to check out other campuses though. I think next up is SDSU.
Passing by Santa Barbara was kick-ass I almost stopped there but I didn't want to come home too late!
more to come :)
The campus and surrounding area is so beautiful. I was in http://www.arroyogrande.org/ on accident and its downtown looked like a glorified bzmt beach-setting. I got off there because it said it was Grand ave, and that's the exit I was supposed to take, but it was the wrong city by about 20 minutes. So it was nice and I travelled down grand anyway to find about 10 hotties tempting me for a car wash-I might like this place-. I went some back route, I think 226 to san luis obispo which took me through some residential and farm area, rolling hills, it was mostly pretty green and autumn leaved trees.
I walked around downtown san luis, went to a little local history museum with information about the chinese families that were there (hiding?) and I had wayy too much to drink on the way up so I got out of there quick (no bathroom). The docent was rambling and I tried to be polite.
Found a bathroom at the park across the street and some hoboish young guy was drying his socks and chillin' with a few friends, complimented my theroot42 shirt before I peed. The downtown there was pretty decent, lots of beach related shops. I realize they market UGGs to the demographic there heavily. I heard the ad run probably 15 times on the radio and I saw stores packed with NEW UGGs signs in the windows. http://www.uggaustralia.com/ . I saw quite a few stunners. People were friendly, more people say hello and are willing to talk it up.
Overall it is a kickass campus, but I felt pretty of uncomfortable in such a rich area with so many conservatives and little if any diversity. I went down grand in san luis and saw about 4 houses on a block leading to the business building with taglines in windows on posters that said "Jesus reigns", "Jesus lives!", and stuff to that effect. On the other hand, it was so relaxing in the park I went through, seems like there is a lot of effort for making the parks damn awesome. Parking wasn't horrible, LA is worse. Not very diverse to say the least.
I would go back. This makes me want to check out other campuses though. I think next up is SDSU.
Passing by Santa Barbara was kick-ass I almost stopped there but I didn't want to come home too late!
more to come :)
sounds cool, but how can diversity be near zero in an (almost) southern californian town?
I don't have the answer, which might be why it was uncomfortable.
final: san jose state university.
word.