me: "i think that sketch is almost an ideal. and if everyone you know is sketch, you learn to be independent just as you learn to swim if you're thrown into a lake."
db: "you know not everyone who gets thrown in a lake learns to swim..."
me: "and those who don't... die."
db: "you know not everyone who gets thrown in a lake learns to swim..."
me: "and those who don't... die."
sad fact of life but true