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17 years ago
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i'm looking at footwear and other things.

i'm digging some of these approach shoes:
http://www.zappos.com/n/p/dp/11572082/c/6.html
http://www.zappos.com/n/p/dp/23604310/c/2501.html
http://www.zappos.com/n/p/dp/11853202/c/401.html

here's some books that look good, too:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0898868289
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0375703233
lucas's avatar
17 years ago
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guide to the different types of shoes:
http://www.trailspace.com/gear/guide/hiking-boots.html
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17 years ago
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i really don't think many of these approach shoes are for me. a lot of them handle 5th class climbing, and i'm not a climber.

i think i'll ultimately want two pairs:
* trail running or approach shoes
* hiking (backpacking) boots
dannyp's avatar
17 years ago
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I went to REI and tried the La Sportiva Cirque Pro's out but my feet were too wide :(
lucas's avatar
17 years ago
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bummer. i wonder if they'd work for me.
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17 years ago
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They're really cool though besides the fit of my wonky ass feet.
lucas's avatar
17 years ago
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one of my friends has the la sportiva slingshot mountain running shoes; he loves them.

we talked about it and i decided i'd give the approach shoes a try. i just bought:
http://www.zappos.com/n/p/dp/23604310/c/2501.html
http://www.zappos.com/n/p/dp/11853202/c/401.html
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17 years ago
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... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
dp: I hear ya. Wide feet, gravity-defying arches. I mainly stay in the realm of skater shoes for the sake of simplicity.

larz: I'm digging the shoes.
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17 years ago
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i've done a handful of hiking four-five day trips through algonquin park in the winter. it is fun but hella cold (-15F for all you americans) and you can't pack much.

i really prefer canoeing to hiking. pack lots, cover lots of ground, and it's really relaxing.
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17 years ago
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try a 5 day hike through parts of the grand canyon during the summer. carrying 2 gallons of water per person each day really isnt fun. my parents have done it a lot and the last time they went and group of college kids didnt bring enough water, got dehydrated and had to be air lifted out.
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17 years ago
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hahaha yeah thats why i hike in canada. there's always a nice clear lake nearby!
lucas's avatar
17 years ago
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i like the shoes i ordered. i'm going with the martini (i just gotta order a 10 instead of the 9.5 i got.)
lucas's avatar
17 years ago
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actually decided against the approach shoes for now.

caitlin and i want to do more trail running, so i got the la sportiva slingshot:
http://www.zappos.com/n/p/p/7158498.html

:D
Chiken's avatar
17 years ago
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I did a badass hike down in wyoming the other day. went to the top of bald peak and perfect view in all directions, could see for miles.
phi_'s avatar
17 years ago
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... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
How much money do you have, larz?!

Also, I'm planning on backpacking this summer. Perhaps in North Texas, such as Palo Duro .


Opinions?
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> How much money do you have, larz?!

well not $25-per-hour-worth, but i have some.. why?

i returned those other shoes.

> Opinions?

let's meet up somewhere and do some real serious expedition shit
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17 years ago
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... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
You always seem to be buying stuff...


When and where, larz? I'll pick up Gatz and we can hold a ttf get-together on a mountain.
lucas's avatar
17 years ago
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i got the mountain running shoes today.. they are awesome. i'm keeping them.
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17 years ago
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toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
for now
lucas's avatar
17 years ago
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lucas
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you're right. they might be a bit too big
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17 years ago
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... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
A bit? I was thinking a byte or so.
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17 years ago
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:/
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17 years ago
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haha, phi.
lucas's avatar
17 years ago
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just hiked up and ran down part of a mountain (900')! woo!

i used my 10.5 slingshots, so i guess i'm keeping them. they worked very nicely!
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17 years ago
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next up on my list is a backpack (internal frame, 2 day). recommendations?

then i'll probably buy an msr hubba hubba (2 man, 3 season tent, ~$250).
nestor's avatar
17 years ago
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I don't know much about backpacks, I have a few dry bags though.
Chiken's avatar
17 years ago
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shit, if i do any serious multiple day hikes i use my dads old pack from like the 70's. things got like a steel frame that rests on your back but is a fuckin amazing pack. holds everything i need and still holds up great.

Some time in august i may be going on a hike down into the grand canyon to deer falls or something like that. on the way in i guess we are gonna have to hide caches of water along the trail and mark them with a gps so on the way out we can actually survive! haha.
lucas's avatar
17 years ago
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awesome
lucas's avatar
17 years ago
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anyone have experience with deuter bags? i'm looking at their 85 liter bag:

http://www.trailspace.com/gear/deuter/aircontact-75+10/
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17 years ago
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i'm might just spring for an osprey pack, because i guess they are the real deal.

tents, revisited: i'm looking for a 2-man, 3-season. i'm considering:

sierra designs - lightning -- $250 -- 4lbs, 5oz packed -- 2 poles -- 1 door/vestibule
msr - hubba hubba -- $300 -- 4lbs, 12 oz packed -- 1 pole -- 2 doors/vestibules

thoughts here?
lucas's avatar
17 years ago
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p.s. http://www.moosejaw.com/ is awesome
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other thoughts:

MSR Mini Works EX Micro filter: $85
Jetboil Personal Cooking System / Coffee Press Bundle: $100
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17 years ago
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i bought an arc-teryx bora 80 for $375 at a shop a block from my apartment, along with a jetboil and an msr mini-works filter.

so i'm borrowing caitlin's tent (msr hubba hubba).

i got everything packed in the bora except food. i probably have about 10-15 liters of room left. :D
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17 years ago
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... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
Bringing up dp's wonky-ass feet remark again...

I got professionally sized today to get some good, sturdy walking/hiking shoes. I'm a size 10EEEE. :(
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17 years ago
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that is wonky-ass.
lucas's avatar
17 years ago
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any recommendations for a high-cut vibram-soled gore-tex hiking boot?
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17 years ago
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i just bought the black diamond firstlight. it's 2-man 3-season tent, but it should hold up very nicely in mild winter conditions. $209 at the basecamp. while i was there, i got a patagonia crew and two pairs of smartwool socks on the cheap.

\o/
Chiken's avatar
17 years ago
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ah dude larz you shoulda told me you were gettin that tent at the basecamp. i coulda hooked ya up with a killer discount.
lucas's avatar
17 years ago
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:/ how?

i've kinda accepted paying normal prices on sporting goods and bicycle parts. retail markup is usually around 100%, but that's okay.
Chiken's avatar
17 years ago
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my mom still does a shit load of inventory for them so she gets everything at cost. plus since she isn't exactly employed by them and she hates the owner she has no problem buying stuff for other people.

it's kinda a long story about my mom and the base camp but still it's pretty amusing in the end.
lucas's avatar
17 years ago
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damn. oh well..
dannyp's avatar
17 years ago
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hey chiken are there any bivy sac's that you can get at a discount? i might get one through ya :D
lucas's avatar
17 years ago
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basecamp carries a few. but at the price, you might as well get a tent like mine. it's only 2.5 pounds and offers a lot more protection.
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17 years ago
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just got a few pieces of marmot mid-weight base layer: leggings, crew top, and zip top. $20 each at barrel mountaineering (a block from my house).

does anyone here have opinions on shells? helly hansen has a pretty nice winter shell for $175 (normally $350).
lucas's avatar
17 years ago
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guide to winter camping
http://www.princeton.edu/~oa/winter/wintcamp.shtml
phi_'s avatar
17 years ago
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... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
Brr... I'm glad I live down here. Where winter is still above 30F.
lucas's avatar
16 years ago
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just bought these on sale:
http://www.zappos.com/n/p/p/7138244/c/764.html

hopefully they will work out for me. do some snowshoeing (and ice climbing?).
 
16 years ago
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getting a backpack for xmas, hopefully a tent from the parental units and i should be good to actually get out there.
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16 years ago
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want to do some winter camping with me?
 
16 years ago
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once i knock down to part time at q2 i'm in.
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16 years ago
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chiken.. how do you feel about getting me a mummy bag? possible?
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16 years ago
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i just got the boots. they ar the most insane things i have ever worn in my life.

i feel like an astronaut.
Chiken's avatar
16 years ago
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i can look into over break
lucas's avatar
16 years ago
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sweet. thanks.
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16 years ago
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http://www.vzwrentinternational.com/satellite_phone.aspx
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16 years ago
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... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
I want that phone.
lucas's avatar
16 years ago
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i'm seriously considering shaving my feet and legs for comfort with tight socks and long underwear.
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16 years ago
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watermelon_snow
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16 years ago
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okay, so i knew about avalanche beacons, shovels, and poles. but not about this:

http://www.bdel.com/gear/avalung_ii.php
http://www.backcountry.com/store/BLD0233/Blac … ng-II.html
lucas's avatar
16 years ago
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and from the wsj today: http://www.clanbbw.com/publicimg/data/images/notice.jpg

:D
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16 years ago
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there is such a thing as an "icebow"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image :410px-Sun_halo_optical_phenomenon_edit.jpg

oh, and yes, the united states has a south pole station
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16 years ago
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nothing is wrong - what are you scared of?
any reccomendations for some lightweight hiking pants? mainly for warm/humid climate. the ones that rip in half to become shorts would be ideal.

I need a solid pair to wear in the yukatan. I just want to have one pair for the whole trip.
Chiken's avatar
16 years ago
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check out ex officio
http://www.exofficio.com/default.aspx

they've got amazing outdoors clothes for hiking in any weather.
lucas's avatar
16 years ago
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> mainly for warm/humid climate.

windy?
andyp's avatar
16 years ago
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nothing is wrong - what are you scared of?
not sure if its windy there or not.

sweet link chiken.. the buzz off brand looks pretty sweet
lucas's avatar
16 years ago
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i just got the marmot randonnee hardshell goretex pants for $209 at moosejaw! (they are normally $300.)
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16 years ago
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i just got them. they are amazing.
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16 years ago
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16 years ago
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so a friend and me are still on for a march expedition.

what i still need (by priority):
1. boots (44 or 44.5)
2. gloves (shell, liner)
3. balaclava
4. jacket (shell, fleece)
5. msr lightning ascent 30" snowshoes
6. 0degF mummy bag
lucas's avatar
16 years ago
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got some boots.

tomorrow me and a friend are snowshoeing. we're going to try to make it to the bridger ridge on the SW face from middle cottonwood. we'll have to rent shovels and avalanche transceivers.

from my mountaineering book:
"Some people report that the most terrifying part of their avalanche experience was having their air space trampled on as they were being rescued."
lucas's avatar
16 years ago
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/lucasreddinger/tags/20080202/
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16 years ago
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the march expedition is off. i haven't been training hard enough, nor do i want to be out in the cold for a week straight.
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16 years ago
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my updated winter mountaineering want list:


1. gloves (shell, liner)
2. balaclava
3. mountaineering socks
4. jacket (gtx shell, polartec fleece)
5. msr lightning ascent 30" snowshoes
6. 0degF mummy bag



i won't be getting any of this stuff anytime soon. i'll try to hit up end-of-season sales so i'm ready for next year.

as far as summer mountaineering is concerned, i want:


1. traditional leather boots
2. mountaineering socks
3. climbing gear



thank god summer boots are so much cheaper than stiff winter boots!
 
16 years ago
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bump

So I am planning on getting a pack for backpacking this summer (for my bday). I will probably be using it for 2-3 day trips, I'm thinking around 4000 cu. Any advice on brands or deals? I figured db might have some info since it sounded like he got a pack not to long ago.
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16 years ago
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my advice on brands:
1. arc'teryx
2. osprey

osprey is nice because they mold the hip belt to your body. but realize that the drawback to this is that if you wear more/less clothing, it may affect the hip belt's fit. also, it will suck for other people to use the pack.

i don't know about deals. i think they are scarce at this time of year (except for winter gear).
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16 years ago
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osprey are badass packs
 
16 years ago
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mold the hip belt ... so you go into somewhere such as the base camp and they fit your waste or something?
lucas's avatar
16 years ago
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yeah. they heat up the hip belt then mold it to you.
Chiken's avatar
16 years ago
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couldn't it even be possible to just wear it and have the heat generated by your body heat it up and have it mold to you that way?
lucas's avatar
16 years ago
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no, because they heat it up pretty hot. just like when you have ski boots molded, i think they go over 150degF.
Chiken's avatar
16 years ago
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i molded my ski boots by wearing them.........
lucas's avatar
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so then maybe you're right

all i know is that a guy working at a store said that they heat them up around 150degF.
Chiken's avatar
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yeah that sounds right, and your probably right, since the backpack would move around a bit while hiking there is the chance it wouldn't mold right so the safest bet would be to do it in a store.
 
16 years ago
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After a lot of searching here is the pack I think im going with
http://www.backcountrygear.com/catalog/packdetail.cfm/OS128
lucas's avatar
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that's a pretty nice pack, and light too. :)
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16 years ago
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damnit, last week moosejaw had 15% off all climbing gear. why the fuck didn't i buy a helmet and a harness?
Chiken's avatar
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good question larz
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half-price coupon for backcountry.com
2YZ-1-GFVPL
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16 years ago
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When does that coupon expire?

My winter gear (all in new or near new condition):

1. A pair of DAKINE Medium Black Scout Gloves with liners Black
2. HOT Chillys upper body men's medium long sleeved polyester/spandex base layer Black
3. A pair of Salomon thinsulate size 10.5 boots rated for -20 c or -4 f Black
4. A pair of Oakley polyseter medium men's leg base layer Black
5. Several Pairs of smart wool socks

Winter gear I could use:
1. Some kind of jacket (for hiking/hunting/backpacking during a montana winter)
2. Hat
3. Neck Warmer
4. Some kind of legging

I am most concerned about getting a good jacket. I don't know when the best times to buy would be. Now, or wait for fall sales.

I am not sure what to buy. I am basically a Medium all round. Any recommendations?
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16 years ago
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what makes socks smart?
lucas's avatar
16 years ago
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> When does that coupon expire?

july 31
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> I am not sure what to buy. I am basically a Medium all round. Any recommendations?

so this is why you want to go to the patagonia outlet sale.

get a full goretex shell (either marmot, arcteryx, or patagonia). then just get some cheap polartec fleece layer for inside.
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Options:
http://www.backcountry.com/store/ARC0685/Arct … -Mens.html
http://www.backcountry.com/store/ARC0511/Arct … -Mens.html
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16 years ago
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the second one got a really good review:

I love this coat. I was holed up at 14'000 feet on Rainier in a summit bivy. I had to piss so bad with no piss bottle. I used the POCKET OF THIS COAT and it held steady all night long.

asemisldkfj's avatar
16 years ago
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hahahha that is an amazing review.
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16 years ago
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You won't find me pissing in the pocket of my $400 jacket.

By the way Chiken is your mom still an options for patagonia gear?
Chiken's avatar
16 years ago
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nah, shes no longer there. she decided she wants to go back to work as a geologist.
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thanx anyways, work as a geologist sounds more interesting
Chiken's avatar
16 years ago
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i dunno, seems pretty boring to me. My dad's been doing it for probably close to or over 25 years now and all they do is sit on an oilrig in the middle of north dakota for three weeks at a time.
Chiken's avatar
16 years ago
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anyways, hey larz, would you be interested in a hike the weekend of aug 16-17? Im thinkin the silver lake trail.
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16 years ago
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sounds good to me. let me know when it gets closer.
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16 years ago
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apparently that 50% coupon code is only valid on backcountryoutlet.com.

here's the fine print:
Discounted price shows in cart. Enter code at checkout, or click through the banner. Use code to increase discount to 50% off retail price. Not valid on gift certificates or item(s) already on sale for greater than 50% off. Coupon good through July 31, 2008.
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16 years ago
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aw, I got excited when I saw that coupon code.
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16 years ago
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chiken: is this still planned for next weekend? if so, who all is coming? and where is silver lake trail?
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oh, so you're thinking about about going to mystic lake, and then even farther?

i could handle that. :D
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20% off climbing gear sale on mossejaw.com -- coupon code 510
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16 years ago
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haha yeah, that hiking trip kinda fell through. I got suckered into staying in billings a couple extra days.
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16 years ago
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... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
Turns out the GVWR on the F650 I want to buy is like 900lbs. I'm touring the fuck out of this thing.
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16 years ago
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i need good gloves. i'm thinking i'll go with mittens. these look nice:
http://www.rei.com/product/726069
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16 years ago
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nice man, i need some new gloves for skiing

hopefully i can get down to bigsky and moonlight this year!
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16 years ago
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I am not a robot...
"Nose wipe patch on the back of each thumb" heheh
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Idiot cords keep your mitts from blowing away when you take them off :D
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15 years ago
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bozeman area trails
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mt and wy hot spring book (for tc et al.)
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15 years ago
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lr and ap, i dont know what your schedules are like but i would like to get a hike in next week before the 4th if you guys are down. either mystic or rosebud to rosebud. i called ap but his phone is apparently off.
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nothing is wrong - what are you scared of?
what day?
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15 years ago
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how bout the 1st. i've got absolutely nothin goin on except a hike to twin lakes this sunday.
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15 years ago
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i'd certainly go. can i invite others?
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nothing is wrong - what are you scared of?
sounds fun
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15 years ago
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yeah that'd be cool. i'll get some more info on the rosebud to rosebud hike and try to get a more definite plan down and post it by monday.
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so i guess there are a few options on how to do the rosebud to rosebud hike.

1. have two groups, one start at either end. meet at the plateau and exchange keys then meet up at the grizzly bar afterwards to exchange keys again.

2. everyone meet at one end, then carpool to the other.

3. everyone meet at one end, then have someone pick us up on the other end. (my parents have volunteered to do this if we choose to go this route)

in any event, we probably want to get on the trail by 8:30 since it's a 13 mile hike.

also, it might be pretty snowy still. ill be in the beartooths this weekend and see what it's like.
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can we go on thursday? otherwise, i'd have to reschedule an appointment. i can reschedule, if necessary.
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15 years ago
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yeah that would be fine.

so there is still a decent amount of snow on the tops of the beartooths but i would still like to attempt it. i'm gonna call the forest service tomorrow and see if they have any more info on the conditions.
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nothing is wrong - what are you scared of?
I can go on pretty much any day just let me know!
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i vote for method (2).
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well i talked to a ranger at the forest service station in red lodge and i guess theres still huge snow drifts 1/4 mile from froze to death plateau on the east rosebud side of the trail. she said she hadn't heard of anyone making it all the way through on that trail yet.

so i guess we could just go up the west rosebud side and see if we can get to the top of froze to death plateau. pretty good views from up there, then if not we can always go up to island lake.
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15 years ago
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let's just take snow shoes. i can rent us three pairs.
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15 years ago
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my parents have 2 pair
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15 years ago
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alright, you need my shoe size and how much would it cost?
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nah, they're all one size. they go over your boots.

if ap can provide for the two of you, i can just rent my own. (fyi, they're $5/day at the sob.)
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15 years ago
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yeah i can bring them
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15 years ago
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i guess my dad has a pair that i can use.

anyways, so you guys really want to attempt this all the way through hu? well if so, i would feel much more comfortable going from east rosebud to west just for the fact that you can see mystic lake from the top of the plateau and if there is a lot of snow it will make it easier for us to find our way. i don't know the east rosebud side very well so if for some reason we got down at the wrong place because of snow cover it would be a lot tougher getting back on the right route.
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well i'll just assume we are gonna go all the way.

it's a 13 mile hike so getting on the trail early is pretty important. i will try to get to the west rosebud trailhead by about 7:30 am. we can car pool over to the east rosebud trailhead and get on the trail hopefully no later than 9:00 am. that should get us out by around 7:30 at the latest. my parent's started at 8:30 am and got out at 5:30 pm. they had to wait for the other group at the top for a while. so im kinda thinking the snow will slow us down quite a bit.
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alright.. is the weather supposed to be okay tomorrow? It's been pretty cloudy/thunderstormy today and yesterday here. So we are all meeting at west at 7:30 then?
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15 years ago
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supposed to be like low 80's and possible thunderstoms. so who knows how far we will actually get before rain hits.
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so if andyp can bring two pairs of snowshoes, and chiken one, can i borrow a pair of yours, ap?

sure, 7:30 a.m. at west rosebud. i might bring some peoples.
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yeah, i will actually *need* you to bring me a pair, if possible, ap. the sob barn is already closed today, and they won't open early enough tomorrow. call me if you can't asap so i can track down a pair. thanks!
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15 years ago
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yeah no problem. i got them out of storage in absarokee today so i'll bring them both.
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this may be to late, but AP how well do you know the roads down there? i was looking at a map and noticed a rod that cuts over just south of roscoe that would shave a good chunk of time off the shuttle. the map i have doesn't have a name for the road.
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i got a nice topo and food (more than enough for me). i will bring a water filter so we can carry less water.

this is going to be a fucking grueling pace. thirteen miles in one day? :|
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can i just meet you guys at east rosebud? this is a 2.5 to 3 hour drive for me. i don't want to leave here at 4:30am. :(

or maybe i could meet chiken in columbus?
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so it's from 6,200' (east rosebud) to 10,200' (prairie view/froze-to-death plateau pass) to 6,500' (west rosebud). so i guess 4,000' gain.
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did you get the driving figured out, lr?
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15 years ago
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I wouldn't mind just meeting you at east. I can wait for chiken at west.. however you want to do it. And if it's too snowy or stormy or whatever, it's all good if we need to turn around and just backtrack. I'm not dead set on completing this shit gung ho, yo.

I'm making some spam musubi tonight for tomorrow :D
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yeah, so you two go to west.

i'll be waiting for you at east at 8:30 a.m.

cool! see you then!
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a shot from the hike!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/adpeterson/3686427150/sizes/l/

there's lucas in the bottom left corner!
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well, that makes my panorama attempt look like shit

http://cloudfront.wingedleopard.net/lucas/img … au--sm.jpg
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andyp: Wow, what settings did you use?
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f/13 1/1,000s iso 400 on my 50mm 1.8 lens
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lr: did you crop it down a lot?! you were using the 35mm right?
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awesome pics guys. i might try and get the last week of august off and go up to algonquin for a few days. i love the wilderness.
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ap: no cropping; i didn't shoot vertically. yeah, i was using the 35mm; it's my only lens. :)

f/11 1/200s iso 200 for me, so i was shooting 1.833 stops hotter than you. i should have metered or reviewed better.
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15 years ago
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You should get a Sekonic light meter, they're great.
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requires money. :(
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p.s., it took me 130 minutes to get from bozeman, mt to alpine, mt.
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15 years ago
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yeah, i think next time either go down and camp before doing it or go later and break it into two days.
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15 years ago
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I hear someone nailed a deer on the way... :-o
 
15 years ago
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Hey LR thanks for the hot springs book you posted. It's on reserve at the library and seems to be a pretty popular book.
If you guys go on another hike Ji and I would love to join ya.
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15 years ago
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I'd do another, also.. I think i'm finally recovered
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15 years ago
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yeah i want to do another too. i'm looking through this book on hiking in the beartooths, trying to find some more good ones.
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I would go, too
 
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Hey the hotsprings book got in today. I will post some of the more interesting hot spring trips up and then maybe we can have a vote on which one to go to or we can go them all! Look for it soon.
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awesome. much appreciated!

p.s. you should make a new thread for it--this one is getting unmanageable.
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14 years ago
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check out http://www.mec.ca/ for high-quality, inexpensive gear and clothing
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14 years ago
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I think I found the first hike I want to attempt this summer: Black Canyon Lake

Black Canyon Lake.html

http://www.philarmitage.net/beartooths/beartooths05x.html

i dont know if AP's knee could handle it though!
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fucking knee :(
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i want to do that one

looks bomb
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agree
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damnit, i didn't realize the retards put a bunch of spaces in the first url.
 
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is am up for it.....although I would like to do it late summer since it is pretty elevated
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yeah, im not sure what a good time to do it would be. from the pictures my parents have sent me of the beartooths this winter, it seemed like they didn't get hardly any snow. so, im under the impression it could be done a lot sooner than usual.

first thing im doing when i get back is a road trip down there. its been tough going for 4 months without driving.
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... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
I've taken to day hiking the bayous around here. I used to walk the bayous all the time when in school, but it's sort of fallen out of favor to cars and motorcycles (VROOM VROOM). You can find some interesting stuff out in the bayous. (I once made about $200 by selling some lo-pro rims I found submerged in one of 'em.) Plus I get to experience things that have sadly become a rarity around here, like walking in waist-high grass, chasing rabbits, etc.

I'm havin' fun! :D
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did a pretty good hike up in the big snowy mountains. just followed atv trail 635. pretty intense climbs up there.
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14 years ago
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beartooth pass opens today. kinda shitty but gonna go check it out anyways.
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14 years ago
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chiken you told me about a hike your parents did starting at east rosebud.. was that the "beaten path" trail? My parents are going to do that next month I think. They go all the way up to Cook City
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14 years ago
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Your parents are awesome
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yeah, its like a 4 day hike and you start at east rosebud lake.

well, 4 days if you do a bunch of the side trails to a lot of the other lakes and what not. i've heard of people doing it in 2 but i guess they practically run the entire way.
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i dont know if anyone else would be up for this, but it's something i've always wanted to do: hike down to twin lakes and do some sledding. it's only about maybe a mile and a half down, and from what i saw yesterday, it's pretty clear down to the lakes, just gotta trudge through some snow around the lakes to get to the hills. even so, the lakes are still completely fozen and i think it would be a blast if anyone else would want to do it.
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14 years ago
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yeah i think they are doing 4 or 5 days. and where are the twin lakes?
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14 years ago
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sledding...on the lake? or around it
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14 years ago
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you know when your coming up the highway from red lodge, and theres the pull out that goes around the "Welcome to Wyoming" sign? well you park there, and go west across the field, down the hill then south a bit and there will be twin lakes.

the hills around the lake are crazy steep but fun to slide around on. i dunno, just one of the weird things i've always kinda wanted to do.
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14 years ago
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I think that sounds fun
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14 years ago
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so i'm thinkin black canyon lake should be cleared of enough snow to make it to it by now. would kinda like to know whos interested so that a date can be worked out.
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i can go at the weekend
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my birthday is the 23rd hey.
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14 years ago
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are you suggesting the 23?
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Friend and I are talking about backpacking around here around the end of July.
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> are you suggesting the 23?

yes
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that would work for me, what about you larz?
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hiked line plateau today. pretty easy, except for the fact that your on a plateau for 16 miles. oh and the decent into red lodge is pretty terrible too.
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My brother and roommate and I went for a day hike last weekend. Wasn't anything intense like 16 miles, (more like 7) but made my thighs quakey after about 3 hrs going in a obnoxiously straight line uphill.
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14 years ago
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soooo still down for that hike on the 23?
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i have work on the 23rd.
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14 years ago
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Depends on how close the hike is, chiken. I'm in billings right now, going back to Bozeman tomorrow. I'm not sure I can afford to make that trip twice this week, or go somewhere even farther
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it's like just before you go up the beartooth pass at the end of the lakefork road.
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Hike pics:
- cliff slash waterfall
- trees
- end view
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M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
And here I am envious
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many of the urls in this thread are broken. sucks.

names of items > links
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M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
=/ time is a destroyer of all things
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could still search for the items if i knew what they were called :)
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14 years ago
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well fuck it, i'm going saturday. if you want to go, were planning on leaving the trailhead at 9:30am. to get to the trailhead, head south out of red lodge towards the beartooth pass, turn right on lake fork road, trailhead is at the end of the road.
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... and let the Earth be silent after ye.
Leaving Monday for Colorado Bend State Park as well as a few other parks nearby... will be spending a week out and about. Managed to fit all my stuff in a 30L pack, though my friend is carrying the food in his pack ... so I guess it's not as impressive as I think it is sometimes. :D
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M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
Hrmm I need a hat for burning man. Any suggestions?
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this
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M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
Chiken, seems a bit to Don Draper for me man.
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Our week-long tour of various parks was an absolutely horrendous time. It rained every day, usually let up at night so we could get swarmed with mosquitoes and flies. The first night we were being stalked by a one-eyed raccoon, who tried to lead an army of very, very brave raccoons into our campsite and we fended them off with a shovel and a hatchet. We we high as balls and it was absolutely terrifying ... so that was also the last night we smoked until the drive home, which was probably for the best.

On the plus side we made an awesome shanty town for our time at Enchanted Rock. We lived like hobos with tents. I liked it. Felt like home for some reason...
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14 years ago
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well, the raccoon bit is funny
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14 years ago
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Chiken
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got a few good hikes in yellowstone this weekend. gotta say it was pretty impressive. already got a few good backcountry hikes planned for next summer down there when i get back.
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M̮͈̣̙̰̝̃̿̎̍ͬa͉̭̥͓ț̘ͯ̈́t̬̻͖̰̞͎ͤ̇ ̈̚J̹͎̿̾ȏ̞̫͈y̭̺ͭc̦̹̟̦̭̫͊̿ͩeͥ̌̾̓ͨ
God I want to hike yellowstone. Man if I take this job in Cali, I am making that happen.
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do it. i found i liked yellowstone a hell of a lot more in the backcountry..
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11 years ago
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Spending 5 days in a WMA over Spring Break! Finally invested in a water filter, too. Bringing my camera, so pictures will be had!
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Here's photos of my bag from the trip! Link

Now here's a couple of camp. Link
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Martin
It's warm enough to go out in shorts and w/o short? Damn, I'm jealous :-(
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During the day it was, at night it would drop into the low-40s. That sucked.
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Your night temperature was better than our day temperature.
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Oh, yeah, I believe that. After returning from the trip the weather picked back up and it's in the upper-80s during the day and upper-70s at night. Love it. :D