what font do you prefer for your documents?
serif? sans-serif?
serif? sans-serif?
sans-serif for the win!
tahoma is my personal fav. but there were a bunch in my typo. class that were "fun" to draw but hard to remember the names, esp. because they were fonts.
tahoma is my personal fav. but there were a bunch in my typo. class that were "fun" to draw but hard to remember the names, esp. because they were fonts.
i like the latex serif font (vera?)
serifs for all my essays, please. :D
serifs for all my essays, please. :D
Serif!
Sans-serif is for hipster Apple users with scalable fonts.
Sans-serif is for hipster Apple users with scalable fonts.
:D
absolutely serif for a document. Times New Roman always works, but Georgia looks a little nicer if you're concerned with aesthetics.
i'm a huge fan of frutiger's fonts. avenir, frutiger, etc.
just typeset my graduation announcement in latex.
http://www.wingedleopard.net/lucas/other/card.pdf
while db will be proud of the absence of capital letters, he'll be disappointed in my serifs.
maybe i'll make a special one for him sans serifs. :)
http://www.wingedleopard.net/lucas/other/card.pdf
while db will be proud of the absence of capital letters, he'll be disappointed in my serifs.
maybe i'll make a special one for him sans serifs. :)
very nice. congratulations.
thanks.
I'm not sure I like the card, but congrats on graduating!
suggestions?
here's attempt two:
http://www.wingedleopard.net/lucas/other/announcement.pdf
it will be printed on a single pane card (quote on the front, info on the back).
here's attempt two:
http://www.wingedleopard.net/lucas/other/announcement.pdf
it will be printed on a single pane card (quote on the front, info on the back).
Everything just seems to flow together. I can't quite figure out what I would change (other than the caps, that is).
i like the second one more.
I like 'em both. very spartan.
one nit-picky thing on the second one: you put "from" and "on" at the beginnings of the two last lines, but you put "of" on the line with "degree" instead of the line after it. any reason?
one nit-picky thing on the second one: you put "from" and "on" at the beginnings of the two last lines, but you put "of" on the line with "degree" instead of the line after it. any reason?
seemed like the best way
no word from djb yet. :o
i need to find an ink jet quickly to get these printed and mailed out.
i might just go buy one from walmart tonight and try to return it (after studying their return policy).
no word from djb yet. :o
i need to find an ink jet quickly to get these printed and mailed out.
i might just go buy one from walmart tonight and try to return it (after studying their return policy).
hahaha, good luck. i'd say try a smaller joint but that would seem a bit sketchier.
(hmmm... philosophy training kicks in)
(hmmm... philosophy training kicks in)
my card stock is so heavy that no one can print on it!
i tried a laser at my office--didn't work
took them to kinkos, they couldn't handle it
tried a friend's ink jet--jammed
the shop i bought the stock at said they can print on it, so i'm taking it back there tomorrow.
i tried a laser at my office--didn't work
took them to kinkos, they couldn't handle it
tried a friend's ink jet--jammed
the shop i bought the stock at said they can print on it, so i'm taking it back there tomorrow.
nice. take a pic, i love heavy paper. does it have a nice grain?
nice grain? probably ;o
so i got screwed. i took it to the old lady at the shop i bought the stock from, and she couldn't get it working in acrobat. and it didn't have all the printing options i'm used to, i think it was an old version. so she's like "i can just copy and paste this into publisher..."
..so i lost my typesetting. i couldn't put up with it anymore, i wanted it over with. i have a physics final exam in less than 2 hours.
not to mention that i'm paying her $0.40 per card to print them. but i'm so sick of dealing with it. and i learned my lesson--you have to own all the equipment and do it correctly yourself. period.
i mean, fuck, even kinkos couldn't do it, and they are probably some of the most competent printers in this town.
so i got screwed. i took it to the old lady at the shop i bought the stock from, and she couldn't get it working in acrobat. and it didn't have all the printing options i'm used to, i think it was an old version. so she's like "i can just copy and paste this into publisher..."
..so i lost my typesetting. i couldn't put up with it anymore, i wanted it over with. i have a physics final exam in less than 2 hours.
not to mention that i'm paying her $0.40 per card to print them. but i'm so sick of dealing with it. and i learned my lesson--you have to own all the equipment and do it correctly yourself. period.
i mean, fuck, even kinkos couldn't do it, and they are probably some of the most competent printers in this town.
^ Badass...
I'm still looking for my perfect Sans Serif font.
Fonts are something I'm starting to become obsessed with. I had a dream where there was a panel similar to the Google Summer of Code handing out $20,000 grants to projects. I suggested a new font renderer for OSS and the lady said YES! I'm still using Charter! Approved.
I've never even heard of charter font. Googling has yielded interesting results.
http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/bitstream/charter/
http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/itc/charter/
http://www.linotype.com/610/itccharter-family.html
They seem to all reference the same font, however. Very odd. I also have a review of the Liberation fonts released by Red Hat at my website.
Fonts are something I'm starting to become obsessed with. I had a dream where there was a panel similar to the Google Summer of Code handing out $20,000 grants to projects. I suggested a new font renderer for OSS and the lady said YES! I'm still using Charter! Approved.
I've never even heard of charter font. Googling has yielded interesting results.
http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/bitstream/charter/
http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/itc/charter/
http://www.linotype.com/610/itccharter-family.html
They seem to all reference the same font, however. Very odd. I also have a review of the Liberation fonts released by Red Hat at my website.
Here are some candidates for perfect Sans Serif:
Frutiger
Helvetica
GE Inspira
Myriad Pro
Frutiger
Helvetica
GE Inspira
Myriad Pro
I already have the first two. Frutiger is ok. I don't have the entire family though.
I'll look for the other two.
I'll look for the other two.
GE Inspira is tough to find, I can zip and email if you want.
David dot Ontiveros at gmail dot com
I hope it found you well. Comments?
It didn't really suit my needs. I'm looking for a font that is highly readable at 8pt.
formata?
Sylfaen is pretty nice for MS stuff.
I'm digging the Renaissanceness of fabiol tho
I'm digging the Renaissanceness of fabiol tho
interesting blog post for us amateurs
http://ilovetypography.com/2007/11/29/font-cr … dy-joules/
not the nicest font but it's about the process!
http://ilovetypography.com/2007/11/29/font-cr … dy-joules/
not the nicest font but it's about the process!
and I thought a 2.5 MB PDF was big!
I wish this was in English.
yeah it's a little annoying.
an awesome new post. the face is nice, forms seem a little crampy at low sizes, but i like the overall feel.
http://ilovetypography.com/2008/03/12/newzald … to-market/
http://www.klim.co.nz/pdf/KLIM-Newzald.pdf
http://ilovetypography.com/2008/03/12/newzald … to-market/
http://www.klim.co.nz/pdf/KLIM-Newzald.pdf
yeah, it does seem a bit cramped to me.
uh, where to begin...
Adobe Garamond, VAG Rounded, Minion, Goudy, Clarendon, and Trade Gothic are personal favorites...
News Gothic is nice, Avenir, Unit Rounded.
Speaking of typography, my AIGA student group just showed the film Helvetica. I loved it! Very entertaining, I recommend it to everyone who enjoys independent films, typography, documentaries, definitely don't need to be super affluent with design.
Adobe Garamond, VAG Rounded, Minion, Goudy, Clarendon, and Trade Gothic are personal favorites...
News Gothic is nice, Avenir, Unit Rounded.
Speaking of typography, my AIGA student group just showed the film Helvetica. I loved it! Very entertaining, I recommend it to everyone who enjoys independent films, typography, documentaries, definitely don't need to be super affluent with design.
yay typographic love fest: clarendon & VAG are gross though, minion, trade gothic, and garamond are classics
helvetica is fun
some of the letterforms in it are infuriating: u Q y
helvetica is fun
some of the letterforms in it are infuriating: u Q y
Fonts are expensive.
Georgia represent!
Georgia represent!
basic type terminology - everyone should know this!
http://ilovetypography.com/2008/03/21/extreme … rminology/
http://ilovetypography.com/2008/03/21/extreme … rminology/
The detection of types is one of the most elementary branches of knowledge to the special expert in crime. — The Hound of the Baskervilles, 1902.
common typographic errors people make
http://www.recedinghairline.co.uk/files/c1c3b … c-397.html
typewriter typography
http://blogs.walkerart.org/design/2008/03/23/ … typefaces/
http://www.recedinghairline.co.uk/files/c1c3b … c-397.html
typewriter typography
http://blogs.walkerart.org/design/2008/03/23/ … typefaces/
nice
always keep the typog links coming, nestor. i'm lovin'
always keep the typog links coming, nestor. i'm lovin'
that first link is good. some of that stuff is just too much of a pain in the ass though. I do all the dashes correctly and stuff, but I'll be damned if I'm opening a character palette or something every time I need to write my height.
I agree asemi. Maybe if you're doing graphic or typesetting work for a company, then you'd need to worry about all of that ... otherwise you're just acting like a douche.
phi_ > i'm not even sure that those things are 'wrong', because we all do them. who uses an interpunct for currency?!?! still interesting though.
Did anyone grab my fonts.conf???? I need it!
font game!
i got 30 on my first try - if i did it again i'd get 34 for sure.
http://ajax.sayitaintslow.com/fontgame/
i got 30 on my first try - if i did it again i'd get 34 for sure.
http://ajax.sayitaintslow.com/fontgame/
jesus christ
yeah, silkscreen was used widely in the simpsons website community. :x
thanks!
i've heard a lot about that film, but i haven't seen it yet. i really should get around to seeing it.
anyway, check this out:
http://ilovetypography.com/2008/05/16/extreme … gy-part-5/
dude knows quite a bit about graff
anyway, check this out:
http://ilovetypography.com/2008/05/16/extreme … gy-part-5/
dude knows quite a bit about graff
i added some line-spacing:
http://www.wingedleopard.net/lucas/
http://www.wingedleopard.net/lucas/
now you just need a wee bit more letter-spacing
what units do you recommend for letter-spacing and line-spacing?
i tried ems for line-spacing, and it made the spacing uneven.
so ems or percents or points? (i'm assuming no pixels.)
i tried ems for line-spacing, and it made the spacing uneven.
so ems or percents or points? (i'm assuming no pixels.)
pixels is the only option if you want the space to be even on a screen
that looks pretty sweet. not as cool as my Sharpie tattoos though.
Cute!
'better css font stacks'
for all y'all web designers
http://unitinteractive.com/blog/2008/06/26/be … nt-stacks/
for all y'all web designers
http://unitinteractive.com/blog/2008/06/26/be … nt-stacks/
good deal. thanks
yes, good link. reading now.
awesome! I grabbed it with an account from bugmenot.com :).
I don't like FF Nuvo.
Also, can anyone recommend a good monospaced font. It has to be superior to Andale Mono. Preferably one that looks good at Size 9.
Also, can anyone recommend a good monospaced font. It has to be superior to Andale Mono. Preferably one that looks good at Size 9.
Monaco is pretty good on OS X. I use it in Terminal. dunno how it looks at size 9.
i use terminus
Collegiate fonts:
http://www.yale.edu/universityprinter/typeface/
https://www.princeton.edu/communications/serv … phic/font/
http://www.yale.edu/universityprinter/typeface/
https://www.princeton.edu/communications/serv … phic/font/
yeah I tried out that FF Nuvo font and wasn't very into it. nothing beats Lucida Grande right now.
I keep returning to Andale Mono 10pt and Courier 10pt. I have yet to find that terminal font that makes me warm inside. Note that I am not looking for a bitmapped font. I want a monospaced font in TTF(haha nice) format.
you've tried Monaco 10 pt? I love it in my Terminal!
Yea I've tried Monaco ...
Ehh. Reminds me of Comic Sans :(
Ehh. Reminds me of Comic Sans :(
noooooooo
no way! Monaco rules.
More fonts please :)
http://ilovetypography.com/img/tdc-show.jpg - what looks like ornaments is actually letters!
some pretty neat typography (and science)
http://www.typography.com/ask/showBlog.php?blogID=148
http://www.typography.com/ask/showBlog.php?blogID=148
oh wow
hot
i would so like this implemented with traditional printing presses!
hot
i would so like this implemented with traditional printing presses!
I guess the italic S is shorter, but could you accurately call it smaller as they claim?
it's a bit finicky (i see what you mean), but yes. take a look at the spacing. italics flow better.
but the S is the same size! and takes up more horizontal space!
give em a piece of your mind
info@typography.com
I still think italics are smaller :D
info@typography.com
I still think italics are smaller :D
sent!
I'm curious about the width of the space taken up by the letters. like, if you drew a rectangle around each, which would have the smaller area?
out of curiosity I did it myself.
italic S is 129x150 so it has an area of 19,350 pixels.
roman S is 93x163 so it has an area of 15,159 pixels.
I cropped them as accurately as I could, but the difference is pretty big, so I doubt it would have made a difference.
italic S is 129x150 so it has an area of 19,350 pixels.
roman S is 93x163 so it has an area of 15,159 pixels.
I cropped them as accurately as I could, but the difference is pretty big, so I doubt it would have made a difference.
i wouldn't measure the area of the glyph like that... see the overhang on the italic?
hmm true. I think they'd be the same area then, though. but the italic one still takes up more horizontal space, I think, even with the overhang. I guess it's just that vs. the vertical space saved then. but that seems to favor italics since apparently you can fit more of them in a given space. my head hurts.
try measuring the area of a word
let's measure the area of every word in the English language and then average them! haha.
i'm thinking about getting this book:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/0881792063/
any alternative recommendations, nestor?
http://www.amazon.com/dp/0881792063/
any alternative recommendations, nestor?
it's a great book, i own it.
for any wordpressers: http://hellyeahdude.com/articles/free-wordpre … pographie/
I wish google reader and news sites in general would get a clue and put a max-width on stuff. and display it in a font that is decent to read instead of just the default which is usually sans serif.
nestor> it's a great book, i own it.
look what i spotted!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kchrist/3226024787/
i already got it for christmas, though.
look what i spotted!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kchrist/3226024787/
i already got it for christmas, though.
create a font from your handwriting!: http://www.yourfonts.com
mine kept hanging at "~ 40 seconds" remaining, but I'm going to try it again tonight.
mine kept hanging at "~ 40 seconds" remaining, but I'm going to try it again tonight.
I am interested
all of the master's students pay a staff member to typeset their theses.
i'm looking forward to doing it myself. :D
i'm looking forward to doing it myself. :D
:) I was glad when I saw this thread topped. I should learn latex.
special (free-ish) fixed-width typeface for coding:
http://www.ms-studio.com/FontSales/anonymouspro.html
"Characters that could be mistaken for one another (O, 0, I, l, 1, etc.) have distinct shapes to make them easier to tell apart in the context of source code."
"Anonymous Pro also features an international, Unicode-based character set, with support for most Western and European Latin-based languages, Greek, and Cyrillic. It also includes special “box drawing” characters if you need them."
"While Anonymous Pro looks great on Macs and Windows PCs with antialiasing enabled, it also includes embedded bitmaps for specific pixel sizes (“ppems” in font nerd speak) for both the regular and bold weight. (Since slanted bitmaps look pretty bad and hard to read at the supported sizes, I chose to use the upright bitmaps for the italics as well.) Bitmaps are included for these pixel sizes: 10, 11, 12, and 13. See the usage notes (at right) for info on which point sizes these correspond to on Mac and Windows."
"And, like Anonymous™, Anonymous Pro is distributed as copyrighted freeware fonts. You are free to use and distribute them in any way as long you keep them together and include the “Read Me” document that is included with the fonts."
http://www.ms-studio.com/FontSales/anonymouspro.html
"Characters that could be mistaken for one another (O, 0, I, l, 1, etc.) have distinct shapes to make them easier to tell apart in the context of source code."
"Anonymous Pro also features an international, Unicode-based character set, with support for most Western and European Latin-based languages, Greek, and Cyrillic. It also includes special “box drawing” characters if you need them."
"While Anonymous Pro looks great on Macs and Windows PCs with antialiasing enabled, it also includes embedded bitmaps for specific pixel sizes (“ppems” in font nerd speak) for both the regular and bold weight. (Since slanted bitmaps look pretty bad and hard to read at the supported sizes, I chose to use the upright bitmaps for the italics as well.) Bitmaps are included for these pixel sizes: 10, 11, 12, and 13. See the usage notes (at right) for info on which point sizes these correspond to on Mac and Windows."
"And, like Anonymous™, Anonymous Pro is distributed as copyrighted freeware fonts. You are free to use and distribute them in any way as long you keep them together and include the “Read Me” document that is included with the fonts."
I'll have to try this.
I tried it. still like Monaco better. and nothing beats Consolas on Windows! I tried it on OS X but wasn't so into it.
Andale Mono on Mac beats Consolas on Windows.
I seriously don't know about that. my eyes really love something about Consolas + ClearType. it looks awesome in putty and gvim.
Thanks for the tip, I am sportin'.
i'm running anonymous pro as my system font (turned off cleartype) and it makes my computer look like a japanese computer with english enabled 8-)
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I have decided that I prefer Windows font rendering to OS X's. I wish there was a way to tweak it on OS X, because I have font smoothing set to "light" and it's still not where I want it to be. maybe I should switch to Windows? ha.
os x is just ultra-heavy on the smoothing
I like smooth fonts.
i wish i could could run a blur filter on my books
pah
smooth is good, but sharp is important too! I like the sharpness of fonts rendered with ClearType. OS X fonts look too bold all the time.
oh hey I'm just now noticing the difference with light font smoothing on os x. this rules.
lr> i like the latex serif font (vera?)
I think the default is Computer Modern Serif.
I'm doing my resume up in LaTeX, MiKTeX to be exact. It looks like there are ways to use TTF fonts, I'm attempting to use a new serif font, and doing it manually looks involved: http://www.radamir.com/tex/ttf-tex.htm
or you can use an TTF font installer package:
http://mtfi.sourceforge.net/
I'm considering ditching MiKTeX because of how unorganized everything is. I can't tell what all the folders are for or why there are different "latex" and "miktex" folders strewn about. I have a general idea about where the main packages are installed. Anyone suggest another distribution? TeX Live?
I would try XeTeX if the Windows port didn't look like ass (Mac users might enjoy XeTex).
http://scripts.sil.org/xetex
Thank you, typesetters.
I think the default is Computer Modern Serif.
I'm doing my resume up in LaTeX, MiKTeX to be exact. It looks like there are ways to use TTF fonts, I'm attempting to use a new serif font, and doing it manually looks involved: http://www.radamir.com/tex/ttf-tex.htm
or you can use an TTF font installer package:
http://mtfi.sourceforge.net/
I'm considering ditching MiKTeX because of how unorganized everything is. I can't tell what all the folders are for or why there are different "latex" and "miktex" folders strewn about. I have a general idea about where the main packages are installed. Anyone suggest another distribution? TeX Live?
I would try XeTeX if the Windows port didn't look like ass (Mac users might enjoy XeTex).
http://scripts.sil.org/xetex
Thank you, typesetters.
We really should pull the font from the model 15 teletype we have... that'd be a cool font to have.
sans serif!
Gill Sans MT!!
Gill Sans MT!!
gotta have serifs
http://new.myfonts.com/fonts/exljbris/calluna/
i really like this look for body text. regular weight is free, OTF goodness!
i really like this look for body text. regular weight is free, OTF goodness!
monaco is dead in snow leopard?
it is? it was the default font in Terminal when I installed it.
actually I take that back. the default was something else that starts with an m. but monaco is still there.
yep, apple menlo
I'm into it.
:)
anyone seen that t-shirt that says "helvetica" in comic sans? epic.
thanks for that hivelogic link, dp. I'm downloading Inconsolata now.
aw man, it looks kind of gross in Terminal.
http://inspirationlab.files.wordpress.com/201 … peface.jpg
not sure how well this was done but it might be useful to try out.
not sure how well this was done but it might be useful to try out.
I spend most of my computer time looking at Terminus.
:D
you can jailbreak the kindle and use any truetype typeface you want.
i am thinking of using minion. any other ideas? looking for a nice readable serif.
i am thinking of using minion. any other ideas? looking for a nice readable serif.
mmmm, or scala
i like minion and sabon. scala serif looks nice.
I think I fell for another april fool's joke.
hahahahahahaha, it's arial
http://www.tktype.com/chartwell.php is pretty neat
i like them both honest, but I opt for something more original, and if you are, disagrees with me, you can use this site [URL="http://fontineed.com"]free font download[/URL]
lista, if i ever used the ban button, i'd be sure to use it on you.
shitbag
shitbag
That's the spirit
if my friend makes the t-shirt that says helvetica written in arial... i am so buying it.
i would do the same
That would be awesome
http://www.redbubble.com/people/chrisjrn/t-sh … a-in-arial
http://usedwigs.com/helvetica-comic-sans-t-shirt/
http://boingboing.net/2010/01/10/helvetica-tee-is-typ.html
http://usedwigs.com/helvetica-comic-sans-t-shirt/
http://boingboing.net/2010/01/10/helvetica-tee-is-typ.html
why haven't we talked about ms office switching the default font to calibri in this thread?
Because no one here likes, uses, or cares about MS Office?
I have to use it from time to time, but usually just to make sure formatting is preserved from OOo to MS.
i use MS office 10 all day at work. our defaults are on arial.
I only use MS Office extremely sporadic at work, especially since I figured out how to ditch outlook and connect to exchange with $any IMAP client using DAVmail.
At home, I never use MS Office, or OO.o, or any other "office". I simply have no use for it.
I must admit, the only office program I *do* like is Publisher ... I know it has something of a bad rep, but compared to MS Word, it's a blessing.
At home, I never use MS Office, or OO.o, or any other "office". I simply have no use for it.
I must admit, the only office program I *do* like is Publisher ... I know it has something of a bad rep, but compared to MS Word, it's a blessing.
i spend 70% of my time in excel, 20% of my time in powerpoint, and 10% of my time in outlook.
i would lose it if i had to spend time in word.
i would lose it if i had to spend time in word.
50% outlook, 30% excel, 15% powerpoint, 5% word for me
> why haven't we talked about ms office switching the default font to calibri in this thread?
I like it because calibri is my workplace's official font (handy). Otherwise I don't like it at all.
> why haven't we talked about ms office switching the default font to calibri in this thread?
I like it because calibri is my workplace's official font (handy). Otherwise I don't like it at all.
your workplace probably switched their official font to align with microsoft
heh at one of my employers the default font on office was helvetica.