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17 years ago
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(1) We perceive ordinary objects (houses, mountains, etc.).
(2) We perceive only ideas.
Therefore,
(3) Ordinary objects are ideas.


:D
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17 years ago
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i like how there's a wikipedia article titled "brain in a vat"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_in_a_vat
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17 years ago
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ok, that berkeley :v
lucas's avatar
17 years ago
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there are others?
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17 years ago
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no matter what el bishop says i'm still a proponent of a kantian absolute reality.
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17 years ago
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:D
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17 years ago
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im so pumped for next year. so i'm in a business program, and my only elective was taking german.

im now enrolled in a dual degree program... commerce + arts (philosophy).

my two electives next year are:

PHIL-250/1.0 Epistemology and Metaphysics
An examination of the development of central debates in epistemology and metaphysics from the early modern period to the present. Focusing on the work of thinkers like Descartes, Kant, Wittgenstein and Quine, such questions as the nature and justification of knowledge, mind and body, personhood and community, truth and meaning will be discussed.

PHIL-257/1.0 Ethics
A study of problems in moral and/or political philosophy from the ancient or early modern period to the present.

Suffice to say I am SO excited.
Just thought I'd put that out there.
lucas's avatar
17 years ago
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i'm jealous that you get to study wittgenstein. the other guys are alright, i guess.
nestor's avatar
17 years ago
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i'm just happy to study philosophy again, heh
lucas's avatar
17 years ago
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yeah, that's cool
nestor's avatar
16 years ago
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oh look at me now, writing my 250 essay on materialism

not only the kant bomb but the subject of this thread is featured prominently in its yet-to-be-formed content

procrastination
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16 years ago
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i actually laughed at this when i saw it:

Recommended Reading: Immanuel Kant, Critique of Pure Reason, ed. by Paul Guyer and Allen W. Wood (Cambridge, 1999)
lucas's avatar
16 years ago
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why? because it's necessary reading?
nestor's avatar
16 years ago
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because they passed it off so nonchalantly... it is the most prolix and dry text i have seen. great arguments but pretty shoddy writing (or at least translation).

on the noumenal realm (i think):

But this land is an island, and enclosed by nature herself within
unchangeable limits. It is the land of truth (an attractive word),
surrounded by a wide and stormy ocean, the region of illusion, where
many a fog-bank, many an iceberg, seems to the mariner, on his
voyage of discovery, a new country, and, while constantly deluding
him with vain hopes, engages him in dangerous adventures, from which
he never can desist, and which yet he never can bring to a termination.



i shudder to think of the german
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16 years ago
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essay is due in 1h 10m

still goin!
lucas's avatar
16 years ago
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get 'em, burke!
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16 years ago
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i'm done.

i'm not sure if i like it or not yet... in the context of the assignment maybe not but i think it was well written. i wanted to evaluate berkeley's "conceivable mind-independent object" think in more depth but i ran out of room.