How do you want the text presented to you nestor? I'll start typing once it arrives!
nestor: i mailed the first installment (~40 pages) to dp for transcription today. dp should receive it on saturday or monday, and you'll have results thereafter.
RTF. I'm not sure how lr writes, but keep all apparent formatting (bold, italic, newlines, indents, paragraphs, caps, etc). That should be fine.
@lr- excellent. i can't wait!
sweet, will do.
if i have time this weekend, i'll pick up dvorak and start typing.
here's the breakdown:
leather book, 122 pgs., 20050403-20070425
blue book #1, dare to dream, larz!, 57 pgs., 20060928-20070201
blue book #1, new beginnings, 23 pgs., 20070210-20070221
quad note, interlude, 1.5 pgs., 20070222
blue book #2, [need info from dp]
black book, prelude, 17 pgs., 20070428-20070502
black book, the creation: before sunrise, 65 pgs., 20070502-20070621
black book, the coming: during sunrise, 4 pgs., 20070622-current [wip]
do you want it in chapters (according to the previous breakdown) or simply according to date?
i definitely want chapters. :)
Alright so some technical issues to consider:
Should I do anything to fix capitalization, because it automatically caps after periods, I, and that sort of thing. Dates vary in look, and what in the world is the block period, and how should it be represented? ``- 2/11 4:30pm'' is how you have it sometimes. I suggest conforming to most style guides where times go ``1:00 p.m.''
Should there be an editing phase for grammar? I'm typing it exactly as I see it, except for capitalization.
For now I'm highlighting just a few simple things to be looked at.
-capitalization
-date/time standard
-paragraphs when . . .
-elipses
-grammar/spelling
Oh right, I forgot to address paragraphs, for now I'm just making big chunks with cutoffs on the entry dates.
Hmmm- here's what I think, if lr wants something diff thats fine
Caps I think should be as written. Turn off autocorrect in word.
I'll standardize dates and time, in the meantime do it as written I guess
I think grammar and spelling should be edited. It makes it more readable and errors don't really add much (other than flavour, i suppose).
Are there no paragraphs at all?
it's just straight up entries front to back pages :D
> blue book #2, all is full of love (epilogue.), 42 pgs., 20070226-20070425
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> Caps I think should be as written. Turn off autocorrect in word.
too late I have five typed pages as of 5:19 a.m (or fourteen journal pages).
hahaha.. this is awesome.
dp> Should I do anything to fix capitalization, because it automatically caps after periods, I, and that sort of thing.
please leave capitalization as-is, just turn off auto-correction.
dp> Dates vary in look
please type them as is. i really want a "raw" transcription. then i'll take it and format them all similarly to save nestor some time. but i do want a version that has journal text as-is.
dp> what in the world is the block period, and how should it be represented?
it's a QED character. please use character U+25A0 (■, black square) or character U+220E (∎, end of proof).
dp> I suggest conforming to most style guides where times go ``1:00 p.m.''
like i said, just type it as-is. i'll decide on a style (i love most of chicago) and make the necessary changes.
dp> Should there be an editing phase for grammar?
yeah. i want a raw version, but i/we can edit grammar. this might be a pain, but can you turn off auto-correction for spelling and type spelling as-is? i'd like a raw version, even with my original spelling. thanks.
dp> -paragraphs when . . . / -elipses
can you explain these a bit more? i'm down with U+2026 for horizontal ellipses--nestor, what would you prefer for indesign?
book and chapter listing
leather book, 122 pgs., 20050403-20070425
blue book #1, dare to dream, larz!, 57 pgs., 20060928-20070201
blue book #1, new beginnings, 23 pgs., 20070210-20070221
quad note, interlude, 1.5 pgs., 20070222
blue book #2, all is full of love (epilogue.), 42 pgs., 20070226-20070425
black book, prelude, 17 pgs., 20070428-20070502
black book, the creation: before sunrise, 65 pgs., 20070502-20070621
black book, the coming: during sunrise, 8 pgs., 20070622-current [wip]
> too late I have five typed pages as of 5:19 a.m (or fourteen journal pages).
can you start now? i can go back and fix those things.
> please leave capitalization as-is, just turn off auto-correction.
done
> please type them as is. i really want a "raw" transcription. then i'll take it and format them all similarly to save nestor some time. but i do want a version that has journal text as-is.
Alright, I forced myself to change some of these because they look so different sometimes, so I'll fix those, but they annoy me at times (no comma, no time, and the ominous block period).
>it's a QED character. please use character U+25A0 (■, black square) or character U+220E (∎, end of proof).
alrighty
> like i said, just type it as-is. i'll decide on a style (i love most of chicago) and make the necessary changes.
> yeah. i want a raw version, but i/we can edit grammar. this might be a pain, but can you turn off auto-correction for spelling and type spelling as-is? i'd like a raw version, even with my original spelling. thanks.
sure, i haven't changed spelling as far as i know, i noticed two misspellings but that's mostly it.
dp> -paragraphs when . . . / -ellipses
Oh yeah, so should I just end paragraphs when entries end? that's what I have been doing. I just indent a new line and start on the next entry.
As for the ellipses I'm typing them out like normal, I don't really have a comment except that it seems casual which I don't really mind. After hearing grammar girl's episode on ellipses I've just been typing them as space period space period space period (and sometimes another space when it's a continuation.)
I've been doing double quotes like TeX loves it: ``bye.'' instead of "bye." Word 2007 loves it too.
At times I'm unsure of your termination, as it will sometimes look like you have: ``quiet around',' (it's not very easy to see but I can't tell sometimes when the punctuation is inside or outside the quote), and in a particular context it would change the meaning if it were inside or outside. I guess I should highlight those too. I can normally figure it out but I might not be typing it correctly at times. Usually it's on quotation ends but i think also one or two times in parentheses.
> As for the ellipses I'm typing them out like normal, I don't really have a comment except that it seems casual which I don't really mind. After hearing grammar girl's episode on ellipses I've just been typing them as space period space period space period (and sometimes another space when it's a continuation.)
that's cool. i might take them out. but i think you understand my want of rawness in the first script.
> I've been doing double quotes like TeX loves it: ``bye.'' instead of "bye." Word 2007 loves it too.
great!
> At times I'm unsure of your termination, as it will sometimes look like you have: ``quiet around',' (it's not very easy to see but I can't tell sometimes when the punctuation is inside or outside the quote), and in a particular context it would change the meaning if it were inside or outside. I guess I should highlight those too. I can normally figure it out but I might not be typing it correctly at times. Usually it's on quotation ends but i think also one or two times in parentheses.
i never really know which to do, so i just pick one. could you clarify the difference for me? thanks!
wunderbar
blue book #2 is through transcription:
9,675 words / 40,196 chars (no spaces) / 49,880 chars (with spaces)
nestor: after transcription on every book, i'll proof it and send it to you.
how goes it?
dp started on blue book #1 this weekend.
i'll hopefully get started on leather book later this week.
once blue book #1 is through transcription, i'll proof it and send the electronic version to you, nestor. i'll also send you a copy of the journals, so that you can make decisions based on the writing, if you'd like.
I didn't get very far until last night and today. I finished blue book one in two sittings!
i'll be done transcribing the leather book by this weekend. and i'll be done proofing the leather book and blue book #1 this weekend.
i'm awaiting:
black book pgs. 1-150 for proofing
the return of blue book #2 for proof completion
typesetting info:
the final format will be a "perfect bind" with 6"x9" paper (novel size).
i've been reading the chicago manual of style, and will create all of the necessary contents (half title, title, copyright, dedication, epigraph, toc, ... , backmatter).
i hope nestor will still be interested to typeset this in a couple weeks.
dp: i found something for you: ⓐ ⓑ ⓒ
nice, thanks!
i'm damn busy with school but i'm no quitter. i'm still in!!
awesome! we have the majority of it typed up (leather book, blue books--still waiting on black book).
i'll try to get all of the editing/proofing done this weekend.
well i had an unfortunate event tonight :( lost all my work from today... which was about an hours worth but i was covering a lot of ground...
back to work.
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handwritten ambiguity:
a:o
a:c
r:n
n:h
n:r
h:r
v:r
j:g
i just finished blackbook.
sorry it's a little messier than the others. emailed!
> handwritten ambiguity
j:g:γ
:)
> i just finished blackbook
woo
j:g:y is more rare heh
g:y is probably the most sketch
and i meant that my transcription is messier not the journal, now that i read it THAT looks ambiguous.
i don't mean y, i mean γ. my g is often identical to γ, which is convenient.
back in kingston
what is final edited?
uh oh. i'll let you know tomorrow. i'm utterly exhausted and going to bed.
i'm trying to get you fifty pages tonight. i'm mastering the fuck out of them.
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i'm going to be editing for years at this rate. :(
awesome. i'm working at your rate, and i hope that implies no pressure other than the significant amount you have mustered within yourself.
ozntz
toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
SOOO where is the print?!?!
http://bookletcreator.com/
maybe try this for distribution?