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DaGr8Gatzby's avatar
17 years ago
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What's the status on 64-Bit support in various OS's? I know about the hybrid solutions, but is going fully native still an issue? I'd like to get a new machine rolling soon.
nny's avatar
17 years ago
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Linux 64 bit is pretty fucking kickass. Debian has a stellar amd64 dual arch setup too. Running in 64bit you can run native 32 bit apps using dual libraries.

So Linux and most UNIX variants having had a long 64 bit history are exceptional.

Windows support is ass.

OS X I dunno
DaGr8Gatzby's avatar
17 years ago
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I'm leaning towards OSX. I know about the Linux backwards compatibility and the suckiness regarding multimedia and 64-Bit. However, I want to start developing on a mass scale, as well as providing TTF shell accounts to help out with a project app I want developed.
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17 years ago
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OS X has failed it heavily in the past for me with wonkiness though that was mostly on powerpc machines.

Things like MySQL running like ass on xserves for no reason at all.

As a server on the whole... OS X sucks.

At least in 10.4 NFS and Samba are completely boned. OpenDirectory is a crime against humanity. And OS X itself is a perversion of POSIX the likes of which only Microsoft should be capable of. Plus a lot of open source apps aren't very darwin friendly.

That's of course ignoring the absurdly high cost of owning and keeping an apple running. And that all of their gear is at the very very best cheap user targetted crap. No redundancy, shit for management software, fake SAN, fake raid, and zero fucking enterprise support.


And then there is the ugliness of the machines and their bloated ass interface.

Honestly... I don't understand why people buy apples. They are expensive, ugly, and for the most part severely handicapped.
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17 years ago
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I understand the hating on XServes, I've had lousy experiences on these machines as well. Personally I do like the MacOSX interface, but I'm not going to pay a gajillion dollars for the OS. What I am asking for is some suggestions as to which route to take. I plan to buy some high powered hardware ... Linux seems like an ok 64-BIT os, but I'm aiming more towards BSD. What would you guys look for in a 64-Bit OS?
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17 years ago
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I usually choose my hardware to fit my need.
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17 years ago
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Leopard is supposed to be full 64-bit. who knows what "full 64-bit" means though.

apple.com/leopard probably tells a little more.
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17 years ago
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It's also supposed to meet OpenGroup specifications for UNIX 3.0 and thusly Posix 2. I am calling bullshit in advance. I don't believe Apple met Posix standards much less UNIX 3.0. I find it far more likely they bribed open group.