How to combat this?
ignore it
approve of it
I'm with larz. Of course, that's my solution to most politics.
go neocons! get those demoticans!
Fuck the neocons. FUck Gulliani
Giuliani isn't a neocon.
I think I saw him classified as one by Newsweek yesterday because of his flip flopping between his views. I'll scan in the article. I might have misread it. I know Neoconservatism was a reaction to the Liberal movement in the 60s. Let me verify the article first. I was in the restroom when I was reading it too. So ... eh. Standby for updates.
Newsweek is garbage.
regardless, fuck Giuliani.
I know one person, Robert Kagan, who's been classified as a neocon before and I kind of like him. well, what I've read by him.
I know one person, Robert Kagan, who's been classified as a neocon before and I kind of like him. well, what I've read by him.
I don't know how many other neocons I could find that I think are assholes, though. probably a lot.
to say nothing about the doctrine of neoconservatism, which I know relatively little about.
it's republican imperialism type shit
well yeah, I know THAT much, I just don't want to base my judgement of the entire doctrine on such obviously superficial knowledge of it.
Yea Neocons were basically a super conservative reaction to the movements of the 1960s. Now they're just taking over the fuckin planet.
There's nothing really wrong with imperialism. I don't know why people have a problem with it.
there's a difference between saying "nothing is wrong with imperialism" and "our country should actively engage in imperialism." neocons follow the latter. why should i (or my country)?
Well because globalization is the only way our country can sustain itself economically now that we've exported our entire manufacturing base, and exceeded a sustainable population using our own raw material production alone. That and we seem to be pushing an information based economy, and for that to be successful we need to engage customers on an international level.
Going beyond that there is the obvious argument that we can't simply ignore instability in other regions of the world. Of course this is a sticky argument to get into since until world war 2 the United States has traditionally been a very isolationist nation. A lot of people would love to go back to that. However a great number of people believe that is impossible. And still more believe that was a mistake in the first place. Obviously there's room for plenty of debate here, but it is a reason none the less to support a "imperialist" approach to foreign diplomacy.
I quoted "imperialist" in the last line because I feel that while one could accurately describe the United States as an empire, there is a certain stigma associated with the word that we have traditionally grown out of living up to. Sure we're violent, ruthless, and powerful... but we do tend to listen to the democratic conscience eventually.
=/ Just a thought.
Going beyond that there is the obvious argument that we can't simply ignore instability in other regions of the world. Of course this is a sticky argument to get into since until world war 2 the United States has traditionally been a very isolationist nation. A lot of people would love to go back to that. However a great number of people believe that is impossible. And still more believe that was a mistake in the first place. Obviously there's room for plenty of debate here, but it is a reason none the less to support a "imperialist" approach to foreign diplomacy.
I quoted "imperialist" in the last line because I feel that while one could accurately describe the United States as an empire, there is a certain stigma associated with the word that we have traditionally grown out of living up to. Sure we're violent, ruthless, and powerful... but we do tend to listen to the democratic conscience eventually.
=/ Just a thought.